Re: installing/using grub-legacy
On Friday 23 October 2015 23:20:08 Brian wrote:
> On Fri 23 Oct 2015 at 22:37:32 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > On Friday 23 October 2015 19:51:17 Brian wrote:
> > > To be pedantic: GRUB2 and GRUB1 don't exist in Debian. They don't
> > > really exist under those names on the GNU website either or in the
> > > documentation. It is GRUB or GRUB-legacy. People like harking back to a
> > > time long past though.
> >
> > Yes, I do know that - see my first email. But GRUB-PC is also an
> > obsolete name - and at least you understood what I meant by GRUB1 and
> > GRUB2 however incorrect the nomenclature - and I did know it was
> > incorrect/obsolete. I was just trying to be unambiguous. In which I
> > succeeded. Once you just say "GRUB", you have to know to which version
> > of Debian one is referring, to know which GRUB is meant.
>
> It is a courtesy to use the names used by upstream. GRUB has been the
> default bootloader in Debian since Squeeze. How many years is that?
I would not disagree. But you must admit that prior to being what you see as
rude (and I'll not argue) I was being confusing (and confused).
And how many years is is since LILO was the default bootloader?? Things
sometimes die hard in Debian.
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I just checked. My system (Wheezy) says:
lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude show grub
No current or candidate version found for grub
Package: grub
State: not a real package
Provided by: grub-legacy
So my system thinks that grub is grub-legacy. No wonder I am confused.
I then get:
lisi@Tux-II:~$ aptitude show grub-pc
Package: grub-pc
State: installed
Automatically installed: no
Multi-Arch: foreign
Version: 1.99-27+deb7u2
And it was installed by the installer or updater.... When asked what I wanted
I always said grub-legacy. I simply didn't fight being given GRUB2, though I
am sad to have it because I have not come to grips with it and am frightened
of altering it.
So on my system, my system means GRUB1 by grub. The only way to be
unambiguous is to use the numbers. You (and apparently upstream) say grub
for GRUB2, my box says grub for GRUB1.
Simply saying grub, however polite, _is_ ambiguous.
Lisi
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