Re: Help - 13-year Debian veteran can't install Jessie

[Michael Fothergill <michael.fothergill@googlemail.com>]

On 28 July 2015 at 18:06, Erwan David <erwan@rail.eu.org> wrote:

Le 28/07/2015 18:16, Lisi Reisz a écrit :
> On Tuesday 28 July 2015 16:54:12 Michael Fothergill wrote:
>> For me, normal use of the non-free stuff is a bit like choosing to use an
>> umbrella ie useful but non essential that has a designer label printed on
>> it etc. Or not if that is your choice.
> It depends.  If you want to use a particular computer, it may be essential in
> the installer.  Using that computer is, of course, possibly like choosing a
> designer umbrella.
>
> Lisi
>
>

I'd rather say that finding a computer which does not need any
proprietary firmware, but is available on the market would be the
biggest problem.

When I said that​​ I saw the manual installation of the firmware( so that X11 could work)  I did after adding the non-free option in the source file ​as being like putting on a free pair of spectacles, I meant that I felt like Thelma Dinkley until I had solved this problem......

Whereas when I said that turning on the the non-free option in the installer was similar to adorning a free prosthetic leg, I meant that if I were unfortunate to have purchased a computer that needed the firmware in the installer enabled then I would have felt like Long John Silver or Captain Hook and could not ambulate the OS installation properly without a better prosthetic leg than these characters possessed in reality.

If it is true that most computers do infact require non-free firmware then most users are going to have the Scooby Doo experience and some will be end up being pirates as well but perhaps not entirely involuntarily so......

I thought that you would only graduate to the umbrella stage once you had found your sea legs and spectacles as it were.......

MF