Re: Skype access cancelled for Debian versions before 7
On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:
> On 3/08/2014 6:46 PM, Bret Busby wrote:
>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>> On 3/08/2014 9:21 AM, Joel Rees wrote:
>>>>> On 03/08/2014, Andrew McGlashan
>>>>> <andrew.mcglashan@affinityvision.com.au>
>> I do not have a smart phone - I have an "Oldies Phone" - an unblocked
>> Telstra EasyCall, with decent sized buttons, made in Taiwan, or some
>> other Asian country, so that I mostly press the correct button,
>> instead of trying to answer an incoming call and instead turning on an
>> unwanted camera, and, for telephone use, not camera/radio/GPS/phaser
>> and all of the other non telephone stuff.
>
> I bet there is still the ability to do things with your more simple
> phone than you realize.
>
Actually, it DOES have an LED torch and an FM radio, but, I prefer to
avoid them, and only turn them on, in error.
>> The NSA watches everyone Australian, for the Australian federal
>> parliament. The SS and the government(s) must know everything about
>> anyone, and, no doubt, the KGB and the Chinese equivalent, see all of
>> the classified information, so they all know who you communicate with,
>> what is communicated with you, and, with whom, you have relationships
>> of any sort, and, exactly what each relationships involve, and, how
>> frequently. The voyeurs do have to be able to get their jollies.
>
> I don't doubt that for one minute, but the world is under surveillance
> .. including US citizens; it will continue indefinitely if they can
> manage to keep the funds (under both true and false pretenses).
>
>> We have adequate bandwidth, with "ADSL2+" - as I previously said,
>> Skype 2.2 worked well enough for me. Whilst it was not high resolution
>> (I think it went up to 640x480), or, high frame rate, and,
>> occasionally, I would get frame dropout (?), it was generally good
>> enough, for me. And, I was happy, and, it was an exciting experience,
>> to be able to see people with who I was communicating, and, to be able
>> to see thir reactions to what happened in the course of a dialogue.
>
> ADSL2 is great, so long as you are close enough to the exchange AND your
> local exchange or other parts of the network path are not congested.
>
We are about 2km from the exchange, I believe. I am aware of the issue
of hops and that, like " a chain is only as storng as its weakest
link, and, its joins", as shown by traceroute, a download can only be
as fast as the slowest link (and, the load and capacity of the
server(s).
>> And, just out of interest, whilst the policy of the Loony Nazi Party
>> government, is "fibre to the exchange, copper from the exchange to the
>> house", I am advised that the installation of fibre to the house, is,
>> at this stage, still unchanged, and the copper to the house, has not
>> yet been imposed.
>>
>> So, I believe it is not a bandwidth problem.
>
> It is for some, due to cable length of their DSL service and/or
> congestion (local or otherwise).
>
>> And, in terms of party politics, remember that the whole of the
>> federal parliament, agreed that Australians are not entitled to human
>> rights, and thence, to the protections (such as they exist elsewhere)
>> of a Bill of Rights.
>
> Actually we are subject to a bill of rights, see here:
>
> http://www.clrg.info/2011/02/validity-of-bill-of-rights-1688/
>
That applies only to Victoria - I believe that, like motor vehicle
roadworthiness testing, human rights legislation applies to only two
states of Australia.
For the whole of Australia, see
http://www.armadale-wa.net/politics/HumanRights.html
especially, from the text of the submission made in May 2009, to the
Australian Human Rights Consultation Committee
http://www.armadale-wa.net/politics/HumanRightsConsulationCommitteeSubmission_200905.pdf
- read the first two pages.
I can not copy and paste the relevant text here, but, the first two
pages of that submission, with the citation of what was said by
Michale Kirby, cover it adequately, I believe
> Don't let them screw with our constitution either, under false
> pretenses. Local councils corporations operate as local government
> bodies today, but without the rights to do what they are doing ...
> legitimize those corporations and they'll go gang busters -- give them
> an inch, they'll take a 100 miles!
It depends on how you regard the status of local governments in Australia.
Without federal constitutiional recognition and protection of local
governments, state governments like the WA Loony Nazi Party
government, are free to, as they are doing, further reduce what
little democracy we have, and, force amalgamations of local
governments, to reduce further, any representation of the people, in
government, so that things happen like my own local government
performing the equivalent of Hitler's invasion of Poland, on a
neighbouring local government, and, as with parliamentary prohibitions
of democracy in Australia, we, the people, have no say in government.
That is what happens when we have no human rights, and the
International Covenant on Civil and Politcal Rights, are of no effect,
and, the people, for the most part, simply do not care - "Evil
flourishes where apathy prevails".
> And as for the recognition of
> Aboriginals in AU ... that is also completely unnecessary; any person,
> no matter what, if they set foot in Australian, then they are covered by
> our constitution. Aboriginals are no different to other Australians,
> every person is covered. They want to screw the Constitution under the
> guise of /fixing/ these things, instead they'll f*** things right up and
> we'll lose even more rights.
>
Regarding the issue of the Aboriginals, and, any other race; I do not
know whether you have read the Australian Constitution Act, but,
apartheid (= "apartness" - racial segregation and racial
discrimination) is constitutionally legal and enforceable, in
Australia.
>> The bottom line remains unchanged - with Skype 2.2, and it not having
>> the advances of the later versions of Skype, I could engage in video
>> calls, using Debian 6, the operating system of my choice, and, with
>> people using different versions of different operating systems, so
>> that I could see the person with whom I was communicating, and, in
>> motion, as we communicated (which allows for seeing changes in
>> expressions, due to a person's reaction to things said), and, that was
>> both ways, and, now, Microsoft has taken away that facility and that
>> functionality.
>
> It may not be that simple for all sorts of reasons. There might be
> bandaid fixes in place for old versions that they want or need to remove
> for other reasons. Of course, it may still be simple just the same.
>
> Cheers
> A.
>
>
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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