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Re: set higher verbosity in exim4 output



Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> writes:

> On Mon 19 May 2014 at 07:30:23 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> Brian <ad44@cityscape.co.uk> writes:
>> 
>> > There is an implication here that you think exim (or sendmail) is to be
>> > manipulated directly. That is not the case. It is a daemon which listens
>> > and which deals with mail *which is sent from a client*. The client
>> > interacts with Debian's exim and exim, if the setup is sane, processes
>> > the message. The transaction is recorded in /var/log/exim4/mainlog.
>> 
>> I'm not interested in whether exim, sendmail or postfix are what I
>> need.  I don't know for sure and don't care right now. I'm attempting
>> to get setup with exim.
>
> What makes you think I have the slightest interest in what you choose as
> an MTA?

Ahh we agree... thanks for you kind input.

>> So again, my question is fairly straight forward... how can I
>> manipulate exim directly from the command line, and increase the
>> verbosity level of that mail handling program?
>
>    exim -d

I'm working on that now... see reply to Jonathan for what I see when
trying that.

> Other options are in exim(8). -qff might be a useful one to add.

Now were talking ... but once again, the poverty of man pages is that
they rarely show practical examples of options they mention.  They do
expect a high level of expertise... so for someone like me they are
quite limited in their utility. 

>> Went thru the config... I can not tell from log output why my mail is
>> not sent or delivered.  I want to see more verbose output of the smtp
>> conversation at the smart host.
>
> You are told what is happening:
>
>    (-53): retry time not reached for any host
>
> More verbose output may or not help.   
>
>> This kind of output is not very helpful:
>
> It tells you that exim has tried previously to deliver and failed. No
> new attempts will be made for x minutes.

And again, like I mentioned... not very helpful.  'The reason why'
would be a lot more useful and when exim contacted that server... you
can bet some reason was the cause and some level of verbosity on one
side or the other would show it.

So, yeah... not very helpful.

Might as well say `failed' and leave it at that.


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