systemd's problems would best be discussed at the systemd project. (Modulo the willingness of the devs over there to discuss them.)
What I'm thinking is to talk about specific features to enable the sort of "managing services" that systemd seems to be aimed at, and how to implement them, where existing alternatives exist and how well they work,
With enough discussion, we might be able to get enough mass to get a project started and get it (mostly) off-list.
Joel Rees
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CPUs just fancy pens.
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