Re: alpine status?
On 15/10/2014, Bret Busby <bret@busby.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014, francis picabia wrote:
>
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 2:47 PM, Bret Busby <bret.busby@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 04/09/2014, Karen Lewellen <klewellen@shellworld.net> wrote:
>>>> Can anyone confirm if development continues on alpine?
>>>> I am getting mixed messages about this, one from my web hosting
>>>> company
>>>> suggesting I join the developer's list, and another from an end user
>>>> claiming that development no longer exists.
>>>> Thanks much,
>>>> Karen
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> I suggest that you visit
>>> http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
>>> and subscribe to that mailing list, and, post your query there.
>>>
>>> I believe that you would find that development of alpine, is alive and
>>> well, and, that list includes the developers.
>>>
>>> I believe that the version of alpine that I use, is 2.00, running on
>>> Debian 6.
>>
>> Bret's information is out of date.
>>
>> There is no life at the University of Washington project.
>> The mailing list archives are gone. A subscribe request
>> goes unanswered. There is a Debian bug report
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687582
>> and no progress on that for a couple of years.
>> This is actually my incentive for looking into this - I run
>> into this bug every day.
>>
>> re-alpine is a new project taking over the alpine effort.
>> However, the latest files there are from 2012, so I wonder
>> how active this project is.
>>
>>
>
> See message below.
>
> It is from the alpine mailing list to which I referred, which has
> distributed messages this month, and, the message below, refers to
> ongoing development of alpine.
>
> If you do not believe me, that the alpine mailing list is still active,
> send a message direct to the poster of the message below, asking about
> the mailing list.
>
> --
> Bret Busby
> Armadale
> West Australia
> ..............
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
> you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
> Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
> "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
> A Trilogy In Four Parts",
> written by Douglas Adams,
> published by Pan Books, 1992
> ....................................................
>
> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014, Eduardo Chappa wrote:
>>
>> Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2014 07:40:53
>> From: Eduardo Chappa <chappa@gmx.com>
>
>> Cc: alpine-info@u.washington.edu
>> Subject: Re: [Alpine-info] Signing problems
>>
>> On Sat, 26 Jul 2014, Gregory Heytings wrote:
>>
>> > Hi list,
>> >
>> > I try to sign emails with Alpine (latest version, 2.11).
>>
>> Gregory,
>>
>> Neither Alpine 2.11 nor previous versions, are very good at doing
>> S/MIME. Please try the latest alpha version to see if that makes a
>> difference with you.
>> You can get it at
>>
>> http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/alpha/release/
>>
>> (I am working out a few minor bugs in that release, and adding new
>> features at this time.)
>>
>> Now, in regards to verifying signatures. Well, that is a complex issue.
>> There are many ways in which a signed message can fail to verify. Some of
>> these
>> ways are predictable, and the latest alpha pre-release attempts up to 8
>> strategies to verify a signed message before it gives up in verifying the
>> signature.
>> There are ways to add more strategies, but the total number of strategies
>> Alpine can do increases exponentially (in powers of 2) when a new strategy
>> is
>> added. Again, it is hard to guess why a specific message does not verify,
>> but it you are willing to share an example with me, I might help you
>> understand
>> why alpine 2.11 fails to verify it.
>>
>> In regards to what to do with the .p12 comodo certificate, this is now
>> included in the S/MIME help of Alpine, and so let me quote the text:
>>
>> <HELP>
>> In order to create a private key use the command
>>
>> openssl pkcs12 -in certificate.p12 -out your@address.com.key
>>
>> In order to create a public certificate use the command
>>
>> openssl pkcs12 -in certificate.p12 -clcerts -nokeys -out
>> your@address.com.crt
>>
>> In order to create a certificate authority certificate use the command
>>
>> openssl pkcs12 -in certificate.p12 -cacerts -nokeys -out
>> certificate-ca.crt
>> </HELP>
>>
>> I hope this helps.
>>
>> --
>> Eduardo
>> http://patches.freeiz.com/alpine/
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>
And, in going to the web page at
http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/mailman/subscribe/alpine-info
as cited, and, thence, from that web page, following the link therein,
within the sentence
"To see the collection of prior postings to the list, visit the
Alpine-info Archives."
to the web page at
http://mailman13.u.washington.edu/pipermail/alpine-info/
I find that the mailing list archive goes from September 2006, to October 2014.
And, with
"
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: alpine-info-request@mailman13.u.washington.edu
Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2014 10:36:52 -0700
Subject: Welcome to the "Alpine-info" mailing list
To: bret.busby@gmail.com
Welcome to the Alpine-info@u.washington.edu mailing list!
To post to this list, send your message to:
alpine-info@u.washington.edu
General information about the mailing list is at:
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"
I must conclude that the post from "francis picabia" is a
misinfomational troll.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..............
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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