Re: Systemd: follow-up

For the sake of clarity: The failure to boot was on the dist-upgraded system and was due to systemd.sysfs. I will not repeat what I said in my previous thread about this (see 'Systemd waisted 5 hours of my time').

My installation of stable was exactly to escape the nightmares of systemd.sysfs which caused every computer on which it was installed so far not to be able to boot - not even in single user mode.

As stable did not work out in this case, I tried with the clean installation to upgrade to testing to see whether I could use systemd without the previous problems, but the problems repeated itself.

And I never said systemd was a problem on Wheezy. Read my email more thoroughly please.

Regards
Johann

On 7 August 2014 21:16, PaulNM <debian@paulscrap.com> wrote:

On 08/07/2014 02:25 PM, Johann Spies wrote:
> After rescuing two laptops which were unbootable after the installation
> of systemd-sysfs I had problems with stuff as bluetooth and some of the
> services.
>
> So I decided to do a clean install of stable and got going - until I
> left my laptop for some hours to finish a job - and it would not react
> to anything I did on the keyboard. I had to switch it off and restart

If you're having issues under stable, then it has nothing to do with
systemd.

> it. I though it might only be a little hiccup so I went on working on
> stable (although I could not get my wifi working). Then at one stage I
> left it to build a package and when I returned, it finished the job and
> was totally unresponsive.
>

This sounds more like hardware issues to me. Maybe overheating, RAM
issues, or something else.

> So I deciided at least I could work with testing and I did a
> dist-upgrade to testing only to find that I could not boot.
>

What happens? Do you get a grub prompt, does the kernel start to boot?

> So for now, after using Debian for many years on my laptop, I am going
> to try something else.
>
> I would like to return to Debian when the systemd problems are sorted out.
>

Wheezy (stable) doesn't use systemd, though it is available as a
technology preview. Testing and unstable can be run without it. There
were hiccups earlier practically forcing systemd to be used unless you
held back on updates, but not anymore.

> I will continue using Debian on my server and two other computers where
> fortunately I did not do a dist-upgrades.
>
> Regards
> Johann
>
> --
> Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself,
> my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)

- PaulNM

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