Re: systemd waisted 5 hours of my work time today

[Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com>]

On Fri, Aug 1, 2014 at 7:51 AM, Tom H <tomh0665@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2014 at 9:18 PM, Joel Rees <joel.rees@gmail.com> wrote:
>[... (having said what I said, there is not much purpose in repeating it here) ...]
>> In this case, yeah, experimental is experimental, but there are
>> limits. And that was not the way to have done it.
>
> I'm not sure what you're referring to. The introduction of systemd in
> Debian or the recent removal of the systemd-shim dependency in testing
> and unstable?

The way it was introduced on Fedora. Like I said in the part I elided,
there should have been a separate distro, advertised for those who
wanted to join the fun.

Debian's introduction was not so great either, but at least they
waited a couple of years longer.

The shim? Well, the powers that want systemd on all things Linux want
to push all things sysv-init off, so we should expect the shim to
disappear from time to time, to "help" recalcitrant admins and devs to
quit depending on it. And that's also using engineering for politics.

-- 
Joel Rees

Once upon a time, computer memory was just fancy paper.
And the CPU was just a fancy pen.
Now it is a magic box for enforcing the public policy,
although, like all such magic boxes have been, it doesn't really work.