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Re: 'no-fixes' in stable

On Fri 18 Apr 2014 at 10:52:14 +0100, wobbly-hs wrote:

> Can anyone clarify the policy for when upstream fixes completed in testing
> come down to stable.



  Even stable is updated once in a while. Those updates are called
  "Point Releases". They usually incorporate the security fixes
  released until the time of the update and fixes for grave bugs in
  the current release. 

There you are: "security fixes" and "grave bugs in the current release".
Which of these criteria applies to #656640?

> I migrated from Debian 6 to 7 earlier in 2014 once the latest stable distro
> had been out quite some time.  It was a surprise to find that printing did not
> work.  Bug#656640 shows a fix has been made but not moved downstream to
> stable.  A kindly person pointed out how to make my own backport, but that has
> now shown up further printing problems in stable.

Printing works in stable. You have a particular problem with a
particular package. If you didn't use that package to do what you want
to do the problem would go away.

> My question is seeking to understand the criteria on which a fix is moved down
> to stable.  I think it is likely if the problem were not that printing doesn't
> work but that web servers don't work, it would be fixed in stable overnight.
> So why is printing given second class treatment?  Is it a case yet again of
> "debian is not for desktop users?"  I have seen
> https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs.html#upload-stable
> this seems to suggest that once something breaks on a stable desktop it will
> only be fixed if the bug risks crashing the whole system.

More precisely:

  Basically, a package should only be uploaded to stable if one of the
  following happens:

    * a truly critical functionality problem

    * the package becomes uninstallable

    * a released architecture lacks the package 

Which of these criteria applies to #656640?

> By the way - I'm not subscribed to this list so will check back for replies
> occasionally / for a while only.

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