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Re: systemd: some more questions



On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 21:52 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> I suggest you to contact undeveloped maintainer and edit the systems
> page on Wikipedia?

Chris is mistaken. Unfortunately my mails seldom come through the list.

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From: Ralf Mardorf
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: systemd: some more questions
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 22:07:28 +0100
Mailer: Evolution 3.10.4 

The MUA I'm using and/or my provider is/are crap. My mails often don't
reach the recipients.

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Ralf Mardorf
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: systemd: some more questions
Date: Wed, 19 Feb 2014 21:42:41 +0100
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On Thu, 2014-02-20 at 09:05 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 19, 2014 at 06:34:35PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Wed, 2014-02-19 at 15:01 +0100, Gian Uberto Lauri wrote:
> > > AFAIK udev is part of systemd
> > 
> > It was merged by upstream a long, long time ago.
> 
> Have you got any proof?

It happened around two years ago.

"systemd-tools replaces udev
2012-06-01 - Dave Reisner
systemd and udev have been merged upstream. We will still ship them in
separate packages. However, in order to keep things simple, udev will
now be part of a package called systemd-tools. This package contains
several other standalone tools which can be used without systemd. The
astute reader will note that this also means the entirety of systemd is
available in the core repository.

Please replace udev with systemd-tools when prompted. If you upgrade the
linux package at the same time, you may see an error during initramfs
creation that the udev hook is not found. After the upgrade completes,
please rerun 'mkinitcpio -p linux' to ensure that a bootable image is
created for the newly installed kernel." -
https://www.archlinux.org/news/systemd-tools-replaces-udev/

Also since a long, long time ago, it's not separated for Arch anymore.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi systemd-tools
error: package 'systemd-tools' was not found
[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ pacman -Qi systemd | grep Provides
Provides       : libsystemd=208  nss-myhostname  systemd-tools=208
udev=208  libgudev-1.0.so=0-64  libsystemd-daemon.so=0-64
libsystemd-id128.so=0-64  libsystemd-journal.so=0-64
libsystemd-login.so=0-64  libudev.so=1-64

Perhaps you should check the source code from upstream.

[rocketmouse@archlinux ~]$ grep source /var/abs/core/systemd/PKGBUILD 
source=("http://www.freedesktop.org/software/$pkgname/$pkgname-$pkgver.tar.xz";

IOW http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/ ,resp. the current
version http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/systemd-208.tar.xz

Take a look at /systemd-208/units/ there you'll find udev.conf, udev.h
and many other udev related files.


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