Re: testing wants to install systemd
On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:37 PM, <berenger.morel@neutralite.org> wrote:
> Le 20.11.2013 12:48, Tom H a écrit :
>> On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 1:48 AM, Brad Alexander <storm16@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 7:19 PM, Rob Owens <rowens@ptd.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I run a testing system that I depend on to get work done on a daily
>>>> basis. I noticed today that a dist-upgrade wanted to install systemd.
>>>> I've never used systemd -- is there anything to fear? For those who
>>>> have installed it, does the system handle the switch from the old init
>>>> scripts, or is there a lot of manual intervention and time required?
>>>
>>> That's interesting. I am on a sid system, and I haven't noticed systemd
>>> on
>>> my system. I have the support libraries:
>>>
>>> $ dpkg -l | grep systemd
>>> ii libsystemd-daemon0:amd64 204-5
>>> amd64 systemd utility library
>>> ii libsystemd-login0:amd64 204-5
>>> amd64 systemd login utility library
>>>
>>> I also checked a testing box, and it has the same libs.
>>>
>>> I also, just out of curiosity, checked apticron on both boxes, but
>>> neither
>>> of them has systemd on the to be installed list. Maybe a dependency on
>>> something previously installed?
>>
>> Please don't top-post.
>>
>> systemd's pulled in by GNOME.
>
> Wrong. Every program using dbus, and they are not only GNOME ones, pulls in
> systemd-login0. For example, Konsole (KDE) depends on dbus. At least on
> Debian Linux.
libsystemd-login0 isn't systemd.
My message was too short.
What I meant was: It's GNOME that pulls in systemd so if you don't
install GNOME 3.8, you'll just have libraries like the ones above and
not systemd itself.
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