http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic Stan Hoeppner grabbed a keyboard and wrote: > On 10/1/2013 12:29 AM, Rhiamom wrote: >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Sep 30, 2013, at 10:33 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com> wrote: > ... >>> It's quite funny to see someone of your knowledge level tell me I'm >>> wrong by quoting the cardboard box as your evidence, while I'm >>> demonstrating how the transistors and everything else work to get to a >>> realistic set of requirements... >> >> This is the crux of the matter. Your requirements are not realistic for how > > Actually they were, up to the point you finally told us what screen > resolution you use. That changes things quite a bit, or I should say > changed one thing dramatically. > > I recommended a fast dual core CPU because more cores will be wasted. > The i3-4340 3.6GHz Haswell would have been as fast as the quad core you > bought, and saved ~$40-50. 4GB RAM, more than 4GB is wasted, but as I > said previously it's cheap so buy more if you want, won't hurt. An SSD, > and APU graphics. The only change in that recommendation, now that I > know your screen resolution, is shifting to a very fast high bandwidth > discrete card. 2560x1440 is a pretty insanely high gaming res if you > want high frame rates and smooth rendering at high detail. Most "hard > core" gamers wouldn't touch 2560x1440 without SLI/Xfire. > > If going w/a single reasonably priced card you're going to want/need a > model with a 384 bit bus. Extremely high resolutions require extremely > high memory bandwidth. The 384bit nVidia models are all above $600. > The AMD 7950s can be had in the low $200s, and the 7970s in the low > $300s. Both are 384bit. > >> I want to use my computer. You may be able to happily exist on your minimal >> memory, ruthlessly eliminating background processes and OS features. I do >> not choose to do that. Your expert knowledge is worthless to me, because it >> requires me to alter the basic way I use my computer. In fact, it is worse than >> useless, because some poor sap might follow your advice and then wonder >> why they have performance issues with their brand new computer. > > No it doesn't change the way you use your computer. Because the specs I > gave actually match how you currently use your computer. You simply > don't know it, because you're not using the tools at your disposal which > inform you of what system resources you're using. > > Run top, install Munin, etc, and look at the percentage of each CPU core > that is used, and how much memory is used by your applications. You'll > be very surprised. Then look at the GPU driver control panel while > running WOW and see how much of the video RAM is in use. At 2560x1440 > it may be pretty high. > > The 7950/7970 both sport 3GB of VRAM do you shouldn't fall short there. > >>> It doesn't matter as you already bought your system. But I find it >>> interesting that you will be running integrated graphics for the time >>> being, after you stated this is wholly inadequate. >>> >>> I also find it interesting that not once did you mention that you may >>> try your old 6970 in the new box, before plunking down unnecessary cash >>> on yet another high end video card. >> >> Yes, I will be running the integrated graphics for a few weeks while I adapt to >> the new box. It is only temporary. >> >> The 6970 is in my iMac, and will remain there. Note that even with 2 gig of >> dedicated video memory I am not able to play WoW on all high settings with >> the 6970. > > Again, that's not because there's not enough GPU memory, it's because > the DRAM bus isn't fast enough, or the chip itself isn't fast enough, or > both, for that insanely high resolution. >
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