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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up



Am Donnerstag, 3. Mai 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
> 2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>:
> > Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
> >> 2012/4/30 Martin Steigerwald <Martin@lichtvoll.de>:
> >> > Am Montag, 30. April 2012 schrieb Chris Bannister:
> >> >> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald 
wrote:
> >> >> > Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to
> >> >> > the OS they have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those
> >> >> > should work. But with 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit
> >> >> > when you use MBR partitioning.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and
> >> >> > software (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new
> >> >> > enough.
> >> >> > 
> >> >> > On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).
> >> >> 
> >> >> Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your
> >> >> post) which command requires the additional options: -cu. Which
> >> >> manpage?
> >> > 
> >> > fdisk. Sorry if I didn´t mention it anywhere in my post.
> >> 
> >> Thanks, I've tried everything but not success. The problem is that
> >> the disk is already half full and aligned with WD tools. I am just
> >> waiting for linux to be able to read it and write it as efficiently
> >> as Windows does it, at the moment I am not able to read it, which
> >> is very frustrating.
> > 
> > I would like to see some information from the disk, like
> > 
> > - relevant stuff from hdparm -I /dev/yourdisk (feel free to skip
> > serial number if you do not want to post it here)
> > - fdisk -cul /dev/yourdisk
> > - tail -fn0 /var/log/syslog / dmesg when the kernel detects the disk
> > 
> > for starters.
> > 
> > You need to use GPT if the disk reports 512 byte sectors to the OS.
> > Thats no problem, when its just a data disk. Try gdisk on the disk.
> 
> Sorry for the delay. Her you have what you've asked attached as files
> and as text on the message:
> 
> 
> /dev/sdf:
> 
> ATA device, with non-removable media
> 	Model Number:       WDC WD30EZRX-00MMMB0
> 	Serial Number:      WD-WCAWZxxxxxxx
> 	Firmware Revision:  80.00A80
> 	Transport:          Serial, SATA 1.0a, SATA II Extensions, SATA Rev
> 2.5, SATA Rev 2.6, SATA Rev 3.0
> Standards:
> 	Supported: 8 7 6 5
> 	Likely used: 8
> Configuration:
> 	Logical		max	current
> 	cylinders	16383	16383
> 	heads		16	16
> 	sectors/track	63	63
> 	--
> 	CHS current addressable sectors:   16514064
> 	LBA    user addressable sectors:  268435455
> 	LBA48  user addressable sectors: 5860533168
> 	Logical  Sector size:                   512 bytes
> 	Physical Sector size:                  4096 bytes
> 	Logical Sector-0 offset:                  0 bytes
> 	device size with M = 1024*1024:     2861588 MBytes
> 	device size with M = 1000*1000:     3000592 MBytes (3000 GB)
[…]

So here we have 3 TB, but…

> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3931.976021] usb 1-4: new
> high-speed USB device number 4 using ehci_hcd
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108900] usb 1-4: New USB
> device found, idVendor=152d, idProduct=2329
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108907] usb 1-4: New USB
> device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=5
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108911] usb 1-4: Product:
> USB to ATA/ATAPI Bridge
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.108914] usb 1-4:
> Manufacturer: JMicron May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [
> 3932.108917] usb 1-4:
> SerialNumber: 152D20329000
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.110324] usb-storage 1-4:1.0:
> Quirks match for vid 152d pid 2329: 8020
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 kernel: [ 3932.110360] scsi7 : usb-storage
> 1-4:1.0 May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device
> 4: "/sys/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1a.7/usb1/1-4"
> May  3 18:18:50 relampago3 mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 4 was not an MTP
> device May  3 18:18:57 relampago3 hddtemp[1872]: /dev/sda: WDC
> WD2500JS-75NCB3: 34 C May  3 18:19:06 relampago3 kernel: [
> 3948.470324] scsi 7:0:0:0: Direct-Access     WDC WD30 EZRX-00MMMB0    
>      PQ: 0 ANSI: 2 CCS May  3 18:19:06 relampago3 kernel: [
> 3948.472796] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdf] 1565565872 512-byte logical blocks:
> (801 GB/746 GiB)

… here we have 801 GB.

Now thats strange.

What kernel is this?

I think its an kernel issue, cause this is before any partitioning.

The device reports 512-byte logical blocks. But it would be nice to know 
the physical size as well. It might have 4096 byte there. If it has thats 
one of the disks I tell the students of my Linux trainings to through out 
of the window ;). It would report 512 byte to the OS and basically lie to 
it to stay compatible with older Windows versions, while using 4 KiB as 
physical hardware sector size. I recommend either 512/512 or 4096/4096, so 
both the same size.

I would try with 3.2 backport kernel in case you use Squeeze.

> fdisk: opción inválida -- c
> GNU Fdisk 1.2.4

This only works with util-linux fdisk not gnu-fdisk.

merkaba:/sys/block/sda> fdisk -c -u -l /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 300.1 GB, 300069052416 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 36481 cylinders, total 586072368 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes   <==
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes   <==
Disk identifier: 0x00000000

   Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1            2048       10239        4096   83  Linux
/dev/sda2           10240      401407      195584   ef  EFI (FAT-12/16/32)
/dev/sda3   *      401408      987135      292864   83  Linux
/dev/sda4          987136   586072063   292542464   8e  Linux LVM


Here with this Intel SSD 320 both sizes are reported as 512 byte (while 
the erase block size is larger for sure).

> Error: The backup GPT table is corrupt, but the primary appears OK, so
> that will be used.
>    o   OK
>    c   Cancel
> o
> Error: Can't have a partition outside the disk!

Ah. I would try a newer kernel. ;)

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