Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law [WAS: Re: what graphic card to buy?]
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- Subject: Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law [WAS: Re: what graphic card to buy?]
- From: Celejar <email@example.com>
- Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2012 14:36:37 -0400
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On Thu, 19 Jul 2012 17:39:12 +0200
gaffa <email@example.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:45:34 -0400
> Celejar <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, 18 Jul 2012 23:30:57 -0400
> > Gary Dale <email@example.com> wrote:
> > ...
> > > Personally I think one of the biggest appeals of Debian (and of
> > > Linux in general) is the commitment to freedom. IP laws and the
> > > degree to which hardware vendors support freedom is relevant to
> > > purchasing decisions.
> > I agree.
> > > Debian users need to understand that attempts to encumber knowledge
> > > for profit are inherently wrong.
> > I don't wholly agree here. I have a very strong preference for FLOSS,
> > for many reasons, but I fully respect the rights of others to develop,
> > sell, buy and use non-FLOSS. It is the right of others, individuals
> > and corporations, to develop, market and sell proprietary software;
> > it is my right to avoid such stuff to whatevenr extent possible.
> Yes, when you look at it from the developers point of view, but there
> can never be any advantage for the user by not having the rights FLOSS
> provides. At least I can't think of any consumer case where you
> would want less rights. I agree that we must preserve full
Of course - but that's a bit like saying that although companies have
the right to charge for their products (say, apples, or cars), I can't
think of any case where I would not want to get them for free, and
where there would be any advantage to me for having to pay for them ;)
Of course, but that doesn't mean I have the right to expect the company
to accommodate me here.
> personal liberty and make changes by taking a conscious choice.