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Re: Assistance required ,alsa audio mess since last updates from Sid



On Sat, 3 Dec 2011 06:10:00 +0100
"Ralf Mardorf" <ralf.mardorf@alice-dsl.net> wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Scott Ferguson [mailto:prettyfly.productions@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Sa 12/3/2011 01:26
> An: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Betreff: Re: Assistance required ,alsa audio mess since last updates from Sid
>  
> On 02/12/11 23:24, Richard wrote:
> > Hi
> > This
> 
> What is "this"?
> 
> > was working until, I think, the last batch of updates from sid
> > If you look at the audio device list below, the wanted device is hw:0,0
> > which is working on other applications:-
> > 
> > Audio     Input    Output     Device Name
> > Device  Channels  Channels
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------
> >    0       12        10       M Audio Delta 66: ICE1712 multi (hw:0,0)
> >    1        2         0       Conexant CX8801: CX88 Digital (hw:1,0)
> >    2        2         8       HDA ATI SB: ALC892 Analog (hw:2,0)
> >    3        2         2       HDA ATI SB: ALC892 Digital (hw:2,1)
> >    4        2         0       HDA ATI SB: ALC892 Analog (hw:2,2)
> >    5        0         8       HDA NVidia: HDMI 0 (hw:3,3)
> >    6        0         8       HDA NVidia: HDMI 1 (hw:3,7)
> >    7        0        128       front
> >    8        0        128       surround40
> >    9        0        128       surround41
> >   10        0        128       surround50
> >   11        0        128       surround51
> >   12        0        128       iec958
> >   13       128        128       spdif
> >   14       32        32       pulse
> >   15        0        10       dmix
> >   16       32        32       default
> >   17       16        16       /dev/dsp
> >   18       16         0       /dev/dsp1
> >   19       16        16       /dev/dsp2
> > 
> > User requested devices:   Input =  0   Output =  0
> > Default devices:          Input = 16   Output = 16
> > Will open devices:        Input = 16   Output = 16
> > 
> > It will allow device 14 .  This looks like a pulseaudio problem, not the first,
> > 
> > The only device this application will run on is the ICE1712 as it samples at 11025
> > 
> > the default device , 16 looks identical to device 0 , the wanted one
> > 
> > --------------------------------------- device #16
> > [ Default Input, Default Output ]
> > Name                        = default
> > Host API                    = ALSA
> > Max inputs = 32, Max outputs = 32
> > Default low input latency   =    0.012
> > Default low output latency  =    0.012
> > Default high input latency  =    0.046
> > Default high output latency =    0.046
> > Default sample rate         = 44100.00
> > Supported standard sample rates
> >  for half-duplex 16 bit 32 channel input = 
> > 	 8000.00,  9600.00, 11025.00, 12000.00,
> > 	16000.00, 22050.00, 24000.00, 32000.00,
> > 	44100.00, 48000.00, 88200.00, 96000.00,
> > 	192000.00
> > Supported standard sample rates
> >  for half-duplex 16 bit 32 channel output = 
> > 	 8000.00,  9600.00, 11025.00, 12000.00,
> > 	16000.00, 22050.00, 24000.00, 32000.00,
> > 	44100.00, 48000.00, 88200.00, 96000.00,
> > 	192000.00
> > Supported standard sample rates
> >  for full-duplex 16 bit 32 channel input, 32 channel output = 
> > 	 8000.00,  9600.00, 11025.00, 12000.00,
> > 	16000.00, 22050.00, 24000.00, 32000.00,
> > 	44100.00, 48000.00, 88200.00, 96000.00,
> > 
> > --------------------------------------- device #0
> > Name                        = M Audio Delta 66: ICE1712 multi (hw:0,0)
> > Host API                    = ALSA
> > Max inputs = 12, Max outputs = 10
> > Default low input latency   =    0.012
> > Default low output latency  =    0.012
> > Default high input latency  =    0.046
> > Default high output latency =    0.046
> > Default sample rate         = 44100.00
> > Supported standard sample rates
> >  for half-duplex 16 bit 12 channel input = 
> > 	 8000.00,  9600.00, 11025.00, 12000.00,
> > 	16000.00, 22050.00, 24000.00, 32000.00,
> > 	44100.00, 48000.00, 88200.00, 96000.00
> > Supported standard sample rates
> >  for half-duplex 16 bit 10 channel output = 
> > 	 8000.00,  9600.00, 11025.00, 12000.00,
> > 	16000.00, 22050.00, 24000.00, 32000.00,
> > 	44100.00, 48000.00, 88200.00, 96000.00
> > Supported standard sample rates
> >  for full-duplex 16 bit 12 channel input, 10 channel output = 
> > 	 8000.00,  9600.00, 11025.00, 12000.00,
> > 	16000.00, 22050.00, 24000.00, 32000.00,
> > 	44100.00, 48000.00, 88200.00, 96000.00
> > 
> > Apart from the number of channels the devices look the same.
> > 
> > Any audio gurus out there ??
> 
> 
> I'd presume so.... :-)
> Maybe they don't spend their Friday night's hanging out on the list
> looking for cryptic posts to decode ;-p
> 
> ---
> 
> :D
> 
> I even haven't read all digests.
> 
> Is the M Audio Delta 66 the only needed device? If so I would disable onboard devices, HDMI etc. by
> the BIOS settings. If you need the other devices too, this indeed could cause some work.
> 
> 
> ---
> 
> Perhaps you could provide just a little more information on what you are
> running, and what the "problem" is? :-)
> 
> Cheers
> 

Hi Ralf

I've subscribed to LAU now, thanks for the link.
If I disable the onboard device the M-Audio card is selected OK
But this with all the cards enabled is new, and appeared with updates.
I suspect pulseaudio is involved, but now pulse is dependent on gnome, so uninstalling pulseaudio
has dependency problems.
The problem is Ralf the wanted card is the M-Audio D-66 shown as device 0 and as soon as another sound
card is installed, it goes to the default or pulse.
As others have stated audio in Debian is a mess, the trouble is the other distros are not far behind.
ALSO I've found that there are so many lists in Debian, that the excuse this should go to another list
is used too often.
If you really want to see the mess audio is in, I'll paste in everything that comes up when I start an
application.:-
******************************************************************
WSJT Version 9.1 r2442 , by K1JT
Revision date: 2011-09-13 20:56:36 +0100 (Tue, 13 Sep 2011) 
Run date:   Sat Dec  3 10:39:19 2011 UTC
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.surround71.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround71
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline:CARD=0,DEV=0
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline:CARD=0,DEV=0
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM phoneline
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM phoneline
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:957:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream

Audio     Input    Output     Device Name
Device  Channels  Channels
------------------------------------------------------------------
   0       12        10       M Audio Delta 66: ICE1712 multi (hw:0,0)
   1        2         8       HDA ATI SB: ALC892 Analog (hw:1,0)
   2        2         2       HDA ATI SB: ALC892 Digital (hw:1,1)
   3        2         0       HDA ATI SB: ALC892 Analog (hw:1,2)
   4        0         8       HDA NVidia: HDMI 0 (hw:2,3)
   5        0         8       HDA NVidia: HDMI 1 (hw:2,7)
   6        0        128       front
   7        0        128       surround40
   8        0        128       surround41
   9        0        128       surround50
  10        0        128       surround51
  11        0        128       iec958
  12       128        128       spdif
  13       32        32       pulse
  14        0        10       dmix
  15       32        32       default
  16       16        16       /dev/dsp
  17       16        16       /dev/dsp1

User requested devices:   Input =  0   Output =  0
Default devices:          Input = 15   Output = 15
Will open devices:        Input = 15   Output = 15
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.rear
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.center_lfe
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.side
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.surround71.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM surround71
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.hdmi.0:CARD=0,AES0=4,AES1=130,AES2=0,AES3=2'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM hdmi
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline:CARD=0,DEV=0
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM cards.pcm.phoneline:CARD=0,DEV=0
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM phoneline
ALSA lib confmisc.c:1286:(snd_func_refer) Unable to find definition 'cards.ICE1712.pcm.modem.0:CARD=0'
ALSA lib conf.c:4184:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_refer returned error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib conf.c:4663:(snd_config_expand) Evaluate error: No such file or directory
ALSA lib pcm.c:2212:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM phoneline
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:957:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) The dmix plugin supports only playback stream
Audio streams running normally.
******************************************************************
Audio streams terminated normally.


all that should be seen is the centre section on which device is selected
-- 
Best wishes / 73
Richard Bown

e-mail: richard@g8jvm.com   or   richard.bown@blueyonder.co.uk

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