Re: Debian: A noob query
On Thu, 24 Nov 2011 09:57:06 -0500, Sam Vagni wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Walter Hurry <walterhurry@lavabit.com>
> wrote:
>
>> A little vague, I'm afraid. But not to worry, there are Linux
>> applications for most things. By the way, I'd strongly recommend (with
>> few exceptions) sticking to software which is in the repositories
>> (which are very comprehensive), rather than downloading stuff from the
>> 'net.
>
> Oh well, I would be sticking with the recommendations of the OS only....
>
>> Are you planning to use wireless? If so, what is your wireless
>> card/chip?
>
> Well right now - no, right now I have a wired connection.
>
>> What graphics card/chips? These are the areas which occasionally give
>> problems for some.
>
> Yeah sure, but it could really be silly but I don't know which graphics
> card/chips I am using...? Can you please tell me about it...But my
> speakers give sound whenever I play any song in Windows XP, however, I
> remember it used Real tek audio drivers when I installed
> windows....Speakers are giving sound, still graphic card is different
> from it...? These questions could really be of very basic nature, I do
> understand, but computers was not my field ever....
>
>> As to the printer, you'll need to check the exact model, not just the
>> brand.
>
> It is Samsung ML 1610.
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Olivier BATARD <obatard@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Yeah. Give a try to others like OpenSuse or Fedora and choose the one
>> you prefer, best testing by using !
>
> Oh well, that's a good suggestion, trying each distro, but really much
> bandwidth is required for it ...., but I would try....
>
>> Then again, debian is your friend, because you can start with bash
>> easily. Gui are confusing for a start, old windows habits are pretty
>> anoying
>
> Okay, so debian is again good.
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is no reason why you should not use GUI for some time if you are
>> more comfortable with it. I have been using Linux for 7 years and am
>> at home on the CLI, but there are still some things that I do in the
>> GUI.
>> [snip]
>
> Yes, but the main concern (for which I am hopeful) is that I have to use
> Linux (either GUI or CLI, doesn’t matter). But I heard people saying
> that CLI gives better control (whatever be the reason, don't want to get
> into that debate...), so for me both new, at least GUI would be pretty
> easy, for sure..
>
>> You are confusing two separate things: Downloading a CD from which to
>> install Debian and installing all but the basic system from the net.
>
>> If you have a connection which often disconnects, then you would be
>> better to do the initial installation of your system from an optical
>> medium:
>> preferably DVD if it is possible for you. Download the first DVD by
>> torrent - that will give you a more than adequate system.
>
> Well, I guess (not sure I am) but would CD work also...? DVD downloading
> would take a lot of time (yes internet problems here), I guess I am
> true. But I hope there is nothing (I mean no problem) in downloading CD,
> would I lose something in case if I go for CD....?
> When searched for getting CD option for amd64 (which is also called
> Intel 64, as someone says here...), there are a lot of CDs with
> numbering from 1 to some 30 or even more...., probably at,
> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/amd64/bt-cd/ , but I don't
> know which ONE to download....?
>
>> Then just go with the defaults. You can start choosing things once
>> you are comfortable with Debian.
>
> Okay.
>
>> You will at one stage in the installation be asked which type of system
>> you want. Make sure that standard and desktop are among the things
>> that have been selected by default. They probably have, but I am not
>> sure at the moment.
>
> Okay.
>
>> GNOME is now the Debian default desktop.
>
> Ah, well.
>
>> No, you do not need to download a 64 bit system if you do not want to
>> do so. In my opinion, the jury is still out on whether life is easier
>> if you stick to x86 (32 bit) or go with 64 bit. I will let those, who
>> have stronger opinions than I on which is preferable, tell you their
>> opinions.
>
> I guess I should go (of course) with 64 since my processor supports that
> (this I came to know)..
>
>> But ia64 is for Intel's Itanium range, so only use it if you have an
>> Itanium processor. Otherwise you need AMD64 for a 64 bit processor,
>> even if your processor is Intel.
>
> Oh I see. My processor is Intel's only not Intel's Itanium (since no
> where the word 'Itanium' was mentioned in properties of processor).
>
>> Debian is made to sound much more daunting than it actually is. Way
>> back in history when Debian and Linux were both young, Debian was for
>> experts only. The reputation has stuck with it, but the world has moved
>> on. Don't worry about all the scary words and names that people use.
>> Initially you will not need any of them.
>
>> Get your initial system set up and then ask questions if you need to do
>> so. I think that Firefox comes as standard with the GNOME desktop, if
>> not then you will at some stage need to install it.
>
> Okay.
>
>> One thing to watch out for: the debian version of Firefox, after a
>> disagreement with Mozilla over control and trademarks, is called
>> Iceweasel. it is Firefox with most of the trademarks located and
>> removed, and security under Debian's control.
>
> Oh I see.
>
>> Above all, do not be afraid to ask. Google can also be useful!
>
> Oh yes, thanks.
>
> On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 9:03 AM, Lisi <lisi.reisz@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Samsung's splix can manage most Samsungs, just as HP's hpijs and hplip
>> can manage most HP printers. (But not necessarily all its
>> all-in-ones.)
>
> My printer is Samsung ML 1610.
>
By the sound of it, you want <http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/
amd64/bt-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-CD-1.iso.torrent>
You can boot from that to test, without installing onto your hard disk
until you are ready. Or if you use VirtualBox on Windows as someone
suggested, you don't even need to burn a CD or put it onto a USB stick.
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