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Re: CPU freq scaling script and OT Re: debian-user-digest Digest V2011 #1178



On Sun, 19 Jun 2011 16:14:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

(removed some stuff to make it readable...)

>> > > That's not true. I worked for famous companies in the past, so not
>> > > only what by the Linux community is called 'professional', but what
>> > > I call 'real professional'.
>> > 
>> > Sorry to contradict that, but most of the major film studios
>> > (Dreamworks Animation, Industrial Light & Magic, Pixar and Weta
>> > Digital) have migrated to Linux and not just in servers but their
>> > workstations.
>> > 
>> > And this is not _my_claim:
>> > 
>> > http://edigitales.org/hollywood-select-linux-for-animation/
> 
> This is all a video production needs? Animation?

Yes and yes.

You should have specidfied what type of wideo you were talking about. Of 
course, making a 3D animation film _is_ about video production but not 
the one you had in mind, I guess.

> Again you need to sync audio, you need to cut a film etc..
> 
> Links to the valid software?

You do have apps for non-linear video software and audio editing in 
linux. You really want links?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_video_editing_software
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software#Recording.2C_editing_and_mastering

And you will also find interesting this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_audio_software#Distributions

>> > we all have to
>> > read manuals and ask questions... again, not everyone knows about
>> > all.
> 
> No, there are standards for professional audio and video work. You don't
> need to read manuals. You also don't need to read the Linux Ardour
> manual etc., if you know this standards, 

I worked with AutoCAD and 3D Max applications and heck, you will need 
more that a good book to understand and know all of the program 
functionalities... And yes, I also worked with web design tools (all 
based in a well-know set of standards, you know) and still need to read 
how to apply one or other tag or what are the new properties available 
for them...

> but you need to read why you
> get glitches, because of settings that ignore the rt kernel CPU
> frequency scaling governor's default setting ;) etc., but you don't know
> what to read as a newbie ;).

And what kind of relation/link do you see in having a standard and do not 
have to read manuals? We all work with standards and we all need to read 
manuals to know how does an application work! Any application. And should 
you have forget it, your system (your kernel) is another application you 
need to configure.

> I guess this discussion can be closed. Right?

I'm only replying to some of the misconceptions you seem to have.

>> > > Non of this famous companies does NLE using Linux. I guess if Pixar
>> > > only would check emails with Linux, people would claim, they would
>> > > use Linux for NLE.
>> > > Please, check what they are using Linux for.
>> > 
>> > Non-linear editors? Then you mean broadcasting companies?
> 
> Does Hollywood only produce animation films?

Dunno, you have to be more specific in your claims. IIRC, you just said 
"video production" and that covers a wide sector.

>> > this
>> > has nothing to do with a kernel setting that handles the cpu
>> > frequency
> 
> Right, it's a mix of the topic and OT. OTOH multimedia is an issue for
> Linux, even that there's professional for software available. There are
> reasons that even the professional software isn't used that much, e.g. a
> lack of hardware. I need to buy a RME card for Linux, for other OS I
> could buy other professional audio cards too, I don't know any other
> vendor, but RME for Linux (there still might be some other vendors, but
> it's hard to get information).

I agree, but then you have to complain to hardware or software vendors, 
not to a default kernel setting.

> If it would be easier for users to use Linux for multimedia, more users
> would use it and more vendors would take care to support their hardware
> for Linux. 

Wrong approach, IMO.

It would be easier if more software and hardware vendors will provide the 
tools for making them available for linux. I think that kernel developers 
very welcome all open source code and they work hard to make all of the 
supported hardware available for us.

> Btw. usage of Linu with e.g. RME cards isn't supported by the
> vendor, but by the Linux community. I guess the coders need to buy those
> cards them self.

Again, availability of hardware and software is up to manufacturers. 
Fight against them.
 
> Again, I guess this discussion can be closed. Right?

You are still replying :-)

Greetings,

-- 
Camaleón


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