On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 00:31, shawn wilson <ag4ve.us@gmail.com> wrote: > i'm feeling a bit stupid here, but: > > > swilson@swilson-mbp-vdebian:/home$ sudo kill -HUP 1 > swilson@swilson-mbp-vdebian:/home$ whoami; cat /etc/group | grep > staff; ls -ld /home/test; echo "" > /home/test/blah > swilson > staff:x:50:swilson > drwxrwxr-x 2 root staff 4096 Jun 14 12:02 /home/test > bash: /home/test/blah: Permission denied > try the output of the 'groups' command