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Re: Problem with Lenny



I use this the virtual machine as mail gateway.  I run postfix,
sqlgrey, opendkim, senderid milter, dspam, grossd, policyd-weight.

I gave this machine 2gig of memory.  So far, so good.  I have already
used it for couple of weeks and no issues.

On Mon, Feb 1, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
> Operating systems don't run themselves out of memory.  Applications, processes,
> do that.  You need to identify why your application mix is consuming more memory
> than is available on the system.
>
> A couple of tips regarding virtual machines and guest operating systems:
>
> 1.  If you're constantly running out of memory, use a dedicated box
> 2.  If you're constantly running out of CPU, use a dedicated box
>
> The entire concept behind virtualization is consolidating light-medium workloads
> from many physical hosts to a single (more powerful) host, and enabling system
> fault isolation--one consolidated server crashes and the rest keep running.
>
> Roman, give this VM guest Lenny the maximum amount of memory you are allowed to
> assign to a single VM, after kicking all other VMs off the hypervisor, and see
> if you run out of memory.  You likely will.
>
> And it wouldn't hurt to tell us what applications/daemons/etc you're running on
> this VM, since *THEY* are what's eating all the damn memory.  If you want help,
> we need the details.
>
> --
> Stan
>
>
>
> Roman Gelfand put forth on 2/1/2010 11:16 AM:
>> Ran out memory.  This is my conclusion.  Originally, I had given
>> 500mb ram.   Though top was showing 300mb utilization, memstat showed
>> 1.1gig.  It seems the later is the one I was supposed to pay attention
>> to.   I am currently looking into the difference between the top's
>> memory utilization display and that of memstat.
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 9:40 PM, Jeffrey Cao <jcao.linux@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 2010-01-21, Stan Hoeppner <stan@hardwarefreak.com> wrote:
>>>> Roman Gelfand put forth on 1/20/2010 9:26 PM:
>>>>> Jan 20 21:59:37 mail kernel: [    0.000000] Linux version 2.6.26-2-686
>>>>> (Debian 2.6.26-19lenny2) (dannf@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3
>>>>> 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Wed Nov 4 20:45:37 UTC
>>>>> 2009
>>>>> My machine freezes every so often.  I was wodering if there is any
>>>>> clues in kernel.log exerpts below.  Thanks in advance
>>>>
>>>> Define "freezes".  Post the machine brand/model/specs.
>>>>
>>>>> Jan 20 21:59:37 mail kernel: [    0.000000] SMP: Allowing 0 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs
>>>>> Jan 20 21:59:37 mail kernel: [    0.000000] PERCPU: Allocating 37992
>>>>> bytes of per cpu data
>>>>> Jan 20 21:59:37 mail kernel: [    0.000000] NR_CPUS: 8, nr_cpu_ids: 1
>>>>
>>>> This ^^ is very odd.  "Allowing 0 CPUs" is very strange.  Given that, this
>>>> "NR_CPUS: 8" is even more strange.
>>> "NR_CPUS: 8" is not a strange thing. It's the number of CPUs that the kernel
>>> supports, not the CPUs existed in the machine.
>>>
>>> config NR_CPUS
>>>    int "Maximum number of CPUs" if SMP && !MAXSMP
>>>    range 2 8 if SMP && X86_32 && !X86_BIGSMP
>>>    range 2 512 if SMP && !MAXSMP
>>>    default "1" if !SMP
>>>    default "4096" if MAXSMP
>>>    default "32" if SMP && (X86_NUMAQ || X86_SUMMIT || X86_BIGSMP || X86_ES7000)
>>>    default "8" if SMP
>>>    ---help---
>>>      This allows you to specify the maximum number of CPUs which this
>>>       kernel will support.  The maximum supported value is 512 and the
>>>      minimum value which makes sense is 2.
>>>
>>>       This is purely to save memory - each supported CPU adds
>>>      approximately eight kilobytes to the kernel image.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Jan 20 21:59:37 mail kernel: [    0.004000] Memory: 598724k/614336k
>>>>> available (1770k kernel code, 14940k reserved, 750k data, 244k init,
>>>>> 0k highmem)
>>>>
>>>> Also very strange ^^
>>>>
>>>> According to that above, your system has 0 smp cpus, but it has 8 cpus, and only
>>>> one of those 8 has an ID.  This also says you have ~600MB of system memory.
>>>> There is no physical combo of DIMMs that yields 600MB so we can assume you have
>>>> motherboard video chip and the BIOS is assigning system RAM for the frame
>>>> buffer.  But on a modern system, why do you have so little RAM installed?
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately the system information provided by kern.log is incomplete.  Please
>>>> post output from dmesg so we can get a more complete picture of your system.
>>>> Your kern.log info alone is not enough to diagnose what is causing your system
>>>> to "freeze".  Something to consider is that kernel issues usually cause panics,
>>>> not freezes.  If your system is freezing, or "hard locking", this is usually a
>>>> sign of:
>>>>
>>>> 1.  A thermal issue
>>>> 2.  Defective hardware
>>>> 3.  Hardware compatibility mismatch
>>>>
>>>> For comparison to your kern.log, I have a two CPU system, each a single core CPU:
>>>>
>>>> Jan 20 01:59:42 greer kernel: found SMP MP-table at [c00f5b90] f5b90
>>>> Jan 20 01:59:42 greer kernel: SMP: Allowing 2 CPUs, 0 hotplug CPUs
>>>> Jan 20 01:59:42 greer kernel: NR_CPUS:2 nr_cpumask_bits:2 nr_cpu_ids:2 nr_node_ids:1
>>>>
>>>
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