anyone having problems with their Nvidia card and drivers should first consult Lennart Sorensen's HOWTO: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.html also it is essential to have the xorg's 'nv' "driver" handy if you get kicked back to the console on startx after an Nvidia upgrade. i.e. edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf -remove 'nivida' and replace with 'nv' very handy when the compile fails. and it will. -- C