I save myself a lot of pain and use the esmtp package with Mutt. It handles sending mail to my ISP and I don't need sophisticated local delivery so it works for me. I wandered back into Exim land earlier this year and it wasn't pretty. - Nate >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://n0nb.us/index.html