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Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal

On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:01:01 +0200
Dirk <noisyb@gmx.net> wrote:

> Thorny wrote:
> > On Tue, 14 Apr 2009 16:22:59 +0200, Dirk posted:
> > 
> >> Randy Kramer wrote:
> >>> On Tuesday 14 April 2009 05:49:48 am Dirk wrote:
> >>>> some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows
> >>>> by making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now...
> >>> Just for clarification, is this in Debian stable or test?
> >>>
> >>> Randy Kramer
> >> unstable.. if it was already in stable i wouldn't bother complaining here
> >> because it would be too late...
> > 
> > Well, complaining here will probably not do much for you either, even
> > though you have now identified your version. You might want to try a
> > developers list rather than a users one. Of course, they might not like
> > the way you explain your complaint.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> well this post was a complaint wrapped in a howto for avoiding hal 
> because i thought that was important...
> but i posted in debian-x@lists.debian.org too.. just for the case the 
> package maintainers don't know what they do when they compile xorg with 
> an installed hal-devel...

They know exactly what they do, and it's been in experimental for testing for a
long time now. The whole idea is to allow hot plugging devices such as mice,
printers etc. If you look in 
there are even quite a lot of rules already set up. for most cases and people
it is now possible to run X with a (nearly) empty xorg.conf and things just
and as you mentioned it is still possible to disable it

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