Re: Clearing SWAP
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On 05/11/08 19:43, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:27:32AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>> On 05/11/08 06:57, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>> On Sat, May 10, 2008 at 11:04:33AM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>> On 05/10/08 10:07, Chris Bannister wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, May 09, 2008 at 09:37:40PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>>>>> I'm sure there are those *cough*Paul Johnson*cough* who'd love to do
>>>>>> just that, most of us know that profit makes the world go 'round.
>>>>>> The rest vote Green...
>>>>> That's not what the science books say.
>>>> Don't be dense.
>>> You have mangled the phrase "money makes the world go round" to suit
>>> yourself. Confusing revenue with profit is not to be encouraged.
>> I don't think that you and I are going to agree about this.
>>
>>>>> Greed will be our downfall.
>>>> Greed is ingrained into all humans. Getting rid of it is as
>>>> impossible as preventing the earth from spinning.
>>> No, its not "ingrained" in *all* humans, that's a blatant generalisation
>>> which is plain wrong.
>> Well, ok, you're correct. "All" is too big of a word. "Most",
>> then. And a good number of those who think they aren't, could
>> easily become greedy with a little influence.
>
> I think its a cultural thing. Perhaps you mean that greed is ingrained
> in most Americans. The drive for individual happiness instead of
> societal happiness is one of the key differences between Canadian
> culture, as a whole, and American culture, as a whole. Perhaps you find
> a difference east/west within the USA; there is in Canada. Eastern
> Canada has more in common (including relatives) with Eastern US than
> with Western Canada. Alberta is more akin to Texas and the Gulph States
> than any other Canadian province. B.C, is more related to the West
> Coast States than to the Maritimes even though they are both on the
> ocean.
>
> Is green ingrained in all of those cultures? No. In Canada, it is most
> ingrained in Alberta culture and least in Newfoundland's culture.
> (excluding the areas of Canada north of 60 which are a world apart. 95%
> of Canadians live within 200 miles of the US boarder). Also excuding
> Toronto since its a world unto itself as well with Canada's richest and
> poorest citizens.
You'd also think that it would not be found in family-venerating
Confucian countries, and farming-mentality societies where "the nail
that sticks out gets hammered down".
But China and Japan put lie to that.
So I'd say that the *lack* of desire to gain as much as possible for
one's self or family is culturally ingrained, but that once (the
majority of) people are exposed to the reasonable possibility of
material gain, that that urge for acquisitiveness kicks in.
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Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jefferson LA USA
We want... a Shrubbery!!
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