debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2008 : Issue 1575
Today's Topics:
Re: Problems with pppoe - sendPacket [ Alex Samad <alex@samad.com.au> ]
Re: A viable mutt [ Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org> ]
Which C++ STL manual package in Debi [ hce <webmail.hce@gmail.com> ]
Re: interface for tar [ "Mag Gam" <magawake@gmail.com> ]
Re: KDE Automount stopped working [ Kumar Ravichandran <kumar.ravichand ]
Re: A viable mutt [ Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org ]
Re: aptitude segfault on UML [ Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org ]
Re: Strange problem with copy paste. [ "Jesse Welling" <jesse.welling@gmai ]
Which USB stick for Debian root file [ rainmailbox2001-ola@yahoo.ca ]
Re: apt-get (debconf) throws strange [ rainmailbox2001-ola@yahoo.ca ]
Re: Happy birthday, Debian! [ "s. keeling" <keeling@nucleus.com> ]
Re: Happy birthday, Debian! [ Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com ]
Re: Happy birthday, Debian! [ Marc Shapiro <mshapiro_42@yahoo.com ]
Re: interface for tar [ Shachar Or <dawnlight@lavabit.com> ]
Re: Which C++ STL manual package in [ Chris Burkhardt <chris@mretc.net> ]
Re: where is ath9k? [ Jonathan Kaye <jdkaye10@yahoo.es> ]
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 03:15:47PM +0200, jules.trombone@k1ka.be wrote:
> Hello,
>
> For the 1rst time, I've installed a Debian box that must connect directly to the
> net via DSL. I've an Alcatel Speedtouch modem connected to eth0, my local
> private network is on eth1 (this works without problems).
>
> I've used pppoeconf and the connection has worked in a few seconds right out of
> the box. But after a reboot, the connection didn't work. I've re-done the
> configuration, all seemed right, but once again that was cancelled after a
> reboot.
>
> Finally, I've seen that eth0 becomes not "up" with the connection-process. If I
> manually do
>
> #ifconfig eth0 up
>
> without specifying an address, the connection works well (in fact, when you use
> pppoeconf, the interface was loaded during the configuration).
>
> Here's my /etc/network/interfaces:
>
> # This file describes the network interfaces available on your system
> # and how to activate them. For more information, see interfaces(5).
>
> # The loopback network interface
> auto lo
> iface lo inet loopback
>
> # The primary network interface
> allow-hotplug eth1
> iface eth1 inet static
> address 192.168.0.1
> netmask 255.255.255.0
> network 192.168.0.0
> broadcast 192.168.0.255
> # dns-* options are implemented by the resolvconf package, if installed
> dns-nameservers 195.238.2.21 195.238.2.22
> dns-search champignac
>
> iface skynet inet ppp
> pre-up /sbin/ifconfig eth0 up # line maintained by pppoeconf
> provider skynet
do these need to prefixed with spaces/tabs ?
>
> auto eth0
>
> iface eth0 inet manual
>
> -------
>
> I've just replaced 'dsl-provider' by the name of my ISP (skynet), but the
> problem was the same with the original filename.
>
> Has someone encountered that problem ? I've done many searchs via Google with
> the message writed in the logs (sendPacket: send: Network is down) but found
> nothing appropriate.
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> J.
>
>
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?????????? ?. ???????? wrote:
> The problem is that Mutt is agnostic to 'accounts', I'll give you that one, but
> I don't think it'd a useful feature -- think about it, what's an account other
> than a From: field?
For those that needs it different SMTP servers with different SMTP
settings, different filters, different folders, different incoming mail
servers, in short, the ability to completely divorce two utterly different
roles of mail without having to apply the carpentry needed to built a small house.
IE, when I get promoted if I have a completely separate account that is
handled properly I should be able to hand over any account associated with
that role to someone else without too much trouble for either of us.
> Or maybe it's been to long since I've used anything besides
> Mutt and the metaphor is completely lost on me. In that case it would be nice to
> find out what exactly mutt is lacking.
I admit, it is one of those features where, if you've never really
utilized it it is hard to miss. However it is also one of those features that
one finds indispensable once you've used it and grown used to it. Kind of
like multiple-desktops that are everywhere except for Windowsland. ;)
Hi,
I installed stl-manual in Debian, but it is HTML format, I cannot see
from the man. Is there a STL manaual package in Debian I can use the
man to display it?
ii stl-manual 3.30-6 C++-STL documentation in HTML
Thank you all.
I am very interested in the fuse AND the fs image solution. Is it
possible to integrate that into auto mounter or autofs type solution?
I don't want too many open mounts. If the /tmp/mountpoint it not open,
I would like to automatically disregard the mount point.
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 11:06 AM, Glennie Vignarajah <glennie@glennie.fr> wrote:
> Le Wednesday 20 August 2008 vers 02:40, Mag Gam("Mag Gam"
> <magawake@gmail.com>) a écrit:
>
> Hello,
>
>> I would like to tar them
>> per day into one tar file. I would then like an interface similar
>> to zsh/ksh to "cd tar.file" and use it as a typeical shell.
>
> Try fuse[1]. It has a driver for tar(ArchiveFileSystems) files[2].
>
> 1: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/
> 2: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/FileSystems
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> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man.
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On Thu, Aug 21, 2008 at 12:05:42AM +0200, Florian Kulzer wrote:
>
> What about the settings in Control Center > Desktop > Behavior > Device
> Icons and the media-related services in Control Center > KDE Components
> > Service Manager?
The media-related daemons have always been running. The device icons
were enabled too. Basically, the storage device would show up under
system:/media in Konqueror when plugged in, but nothign now.
>
> How long did you wait after these messages appeared? On my system it
> takes about 2-5 seconds more for the following to show up:
>
> 23:50:53.743: volume_uuid_487F_1EC0 added
> 23:50:53.878: storage_serial_Prolific_Technology_Inc__USB_Mass_Storage_Device added
> 23:50:53.880: storage_serial_Prolific_Technology_Inc__USB_Mass_Storage_Device property info.interfaces = {'org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.Storage.Removable'} (new)
>
> You should see similar output eventually, or something might be wrong
> with HAL.
>
You are right, I don't get any further messages. What do you suggest I
do about Hal? I have tried reinstalling it already.
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On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 04:19:57PM -0700, Steve Lamb <grey@dmiyu.org> was heard to say:
> Enter a tool which made mutt viable for my needs, mbsync (debian package -
> isync). It is a tool which syncronizes a local Maildir folder with a remote
> imap folder. In essence it is a local imap cache. Mutt's failings as an imap
> client are masked since all of its operations are local. mbsync is in my
> crontab syncronizing the local cache with the remote folders once every 5
> minutes.
Do you know how this compares to offlineimap? I've been using that
to synchronize mailboxes more-or-less happily for the last few years.
Daniel
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 03:23:33PM -0500, Randall Smith <randall@tnr.cc> was heard to say:
> I installed a UML Etch dist as described here:
[snip]
> Any idea what might cause aptitude to segfault. BTW, apt-get works fine.
Nope.
Daniel
Just to confirm, because my GF was the one who told me about this, she had clicked on it, but this mallware doesn't work on Linux does it?On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 6:46 PM, Dave Thayer <debian0823316.dmthayer@recursor.net> wrote:
On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:53:46PM -0500, Jesse Welling wrote:Well, I couldn't resist clicking.. (running iceweasel on Debian, what
> So apparently it was this:
> http://blogs.zdnet.com/security/?p=1733
>
> So any idea on the angle they are trying to attack once you go to the
> website?
could possibly go wrong?) You get redirected to a fake malware scan
site which, big surprise, indicates that you need to download and
install Antivirus 2009 which is a fairly well known mallware.
Cheers,
dt
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Hello.
Today, I have experienced file system crash on my USB
stick. I had been running Debian on it for less than two months, and
today it just started having problems reading some files. I ran fsck
and... let's just say there was not much left from my file system
Yes,
I heard that USB sticks are not very reliable. But it died after only
two months! I was expecting it to run without problems for at least a
year or so.
In the light of this, I really don't know what USB
drive should I chose now. My previous USB was an cheap A-Data (which
now sounds like a very poor choice). Are other memory sticks (Kingston,
OCZ, etc) more reliable?
Please share some of your experience.
Which USB drives would you recommend, and which are not good for 24/7
usage as Linux root file system?
I don't want to install my
system on a hard drive because of power consumption and heat. I really
want to use USB drive, but I need something that will last for more
than two months.
> Hi.
> I was just trying to install today's updates for Debian lenny
> (testing), and debconf throws these errors at me while upgrading
> libpam0:
>
> Preconfiguring packages ...
> Setting up libpam0g (1.0.1-2) ...
> Checking for services that may need to be restarted...Checking init scripts...
> debconf: Unable to load Debconf::Element:Dialog::String.
> Failed because: Can't locate Debconf/Element/Dialog/String.pm in @INC
Ok so my file system died (on USB stick), and it was just a first symptom. Now I will have a chance to check if my backups work...
John Hasler <jhasler@debian.org>:
> Shachar Or wrote:
> > I wonder if there's a system somewhere that was never re-installed, only
> > upgraded from one of the earliest versions...
>
> I'm using it right now (of course, none of the hardware is the same...)
>
> > It would be interesting to see what ruins can be found amongst the files.
>
> There's my fvwm configuration and my .emacs. Both go all the way back to
> my days on BSDI and both could be justifiably described as "ruins".
Might I solicit your opinion of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Design
Interesting story. If it had been done five years later, ... Ten?
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Steve Lamb wrote:
On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 07:27:19PM +0000, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote:Same here.
whoa. & i've been running it for 11. has anyone here been with debian from the start?
Not I. I came in somewhere between Bo and Hamm which places me solidly in
the 10-11 year range.
Debian 1.3 Bo (June 5th, 1997)
Debian 2.0 Hamm (July 24th, 1998)
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NN_il_Confusionario wrote:
On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 07:58:46PM +0300, Shachar Or wrote:Up until I installed Etch, that was the case for me. One continuous upgrade since Bo, or Hamm, through to Sarge. Sometimes the Hard Drive moved to another system, or a new MB was put in, or the system was cloned to another HD and then upgraded, but it never got a reinstall.
I wonder if there's a system somewhere that was never re-installed, only upgraded from one of the earliest versions...
yes
but not on the disk where debian 1.1 was installed from floppy disks,
and not on the same cpu/motherboard. However the floppy drive should be
the same, I seem to recall. Clearly I do not count as reinstall the copy
of an existing installation.
No part of my current desktop was actually in the computer that got my original Debian install, though there may be bits of that system still around in a box, somewhere.
That was one of the primary reasons that I did a fresh install when I switched to Etch. Now Aptitude (in place of Apt) helps keep the cruft down.
It would be interesting to see what ruins can be found amongst the files.
P.S. I did the Etch install in a chroot in free space on the disk. I should still have the Sarge install in currently unused partitions on my disk.
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On Wednesday 20 August 2008 13:50, Mag Gam wrote:
> David:
>
> Do you have some sort of script to manage this? I am a little hesitate
> to give professors mkfs and mount sudo access. Is there a way around
> this?
You can specify the 'user' option in fstab so that usres can mount the
relevant filesystem.
If you precreate the files with the filesystems in them, it may cover it.
>
> On Wed, Aug 20, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Mag Gam <magawake@gmail.com> wrote:
> > WOW!
> >
> > Very nice ideas.
> >
> > I like the dd idea. What command would I use for that? Also, the files
> > are coming from NFS; how can I help this? Any ideas for this?
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 10:24 PM, David Fox <dfox94085@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 5:40 PM, Mag Gam <magawake@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> At my university we run fluid dynamic simulations. These simulations
> >>> create many small files (30,000) per hour. Their size is very small
> >>> (20k to 200k). Instead of having this on the filesystem since it take
> >>
> >> My approach:
> >>
> >> make a sufficiently-sized file using dd if=/dev/zero of=/bigfile bs=1m
> >> count=1000
> >>
> >> size so that you have enough room, and room for growth, of course
> >>
> >> Make a filesystem inside of that file (reiserfs might be a good choice
> >> since it is well-designed to handle lots of smallish files, although
> >> "small" by that definition may be much smaller than 200k)
> >>
> >> Mount that file in loopback mode prior to running your simulations,
> >> and (after moving the files over to the new filesystem) direct all
> >> filesystem traffic to use that 'filesystem' which may entail only
> >> something simple as cd'ing into the 'filesystem' and starting work.
> >>
> >>
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hce wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed stl-manual in Debian, but it is HTML format, I cannot see
> from the man. Is there a STL manaual package in Debian I can use the
> man to display it?
>
> ii stl-manual 3.30-6 C++-STL documentation in HTML
I can't find any reference to a man/troff version of the manual anywhere. I'm
afraid it doesn't exist. But you can get some STL documentation in info format
from: http://www.informatik.uni-freiburg.de/~danlee/fun/STL-doc/
- Chris
Wayne Topa wrote:
> Jonathan Kaye wrote:
>> Wayne Topa wrote:
>> Output of lspci -vvv
>> 00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR2413 802.11bg
>> NIC (rev 01)
>> Subsystem: AMBIT Microsystem Corp. Unknown device 0418
>> Control: I/O- Mem- BusMaster- SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop-
>> ParErr-
>
>
>> Here's what I found on the Madwifi compatibility page:
>
> Ah, you didn't find a listing for AMBIT Microsystem Corp. That means,
> to me, that it is not compatible with madwifi. If it was, AMBIT would
> have be listed there.
>
> Google for AMBIT Microsystem Corp and see if they have any info on that
> card.
>
> Contact Acer and ask them for information on that card.
>
> Did you Acer come with WindBloz or Linux installed?
WinBloz
> If it came with WindBloz did it include a CD with software for that
> card?
It came with a CD but before anything else we ripped out WindBloz and
installed Debian. At that time we were using a router and the ethernet card
which came with the Laptop plays nicely with Debian. In fact the only
problem we've every had with the Acer is right now with the Wifi.
Everything else worked pretty much out of the box. I think I had to
download a driver for the SIS video card from SIS but that was it.
> Does it have any software for that card installed? Did the card
> work in WindBloz? If you have WindBloz software for it you might get it
> working using the ndiswrapper package.
Blush, blush. No I didn't think I would ever need it so I threw out the CD
when we ripped out WindBloz.
>
> If it came with linux installed contact Acer for information on getting
> it working.
>
> <-- Snip info about AR5005G which may or may not apply -->
>
>
>>
>> Acer calls this 802.11b/g Wireless LAN. I assume that is the wireless
>> adapter. Is it something else. Sorry to be ignorant. I have never used
>> wifi before as you can see.
>
> No problem. I have been there too. I spent 2 months researching Wifi
> cards and adapters before I even thought about buying one. My first
> priority was 'does it work with Linux'. I now have 8 pcmcia/usb Wifi
> working with Linux and one WindBloz pcmcia card on a Laptop my Son gave
> me. Guess which ones I use. :-)
>
> Sorry I wasn't able to help you get it running.
Au contraire, thanks a lot for helping me. Right now the pcmia or usb wifi
card seems the best option. Any recommendations on that score?
>
> Good luck!
>
> Wayne
Once again, thanks a million Wayne. You show us all what Debian is all
about.
Cheers mate,
Jonathan
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