Re: what's the best IDE for C programming in Debian?
On Sat, Aug 9, 2008 at 11:26 AM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso
<jordigh@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2008/8/1 Star Liu <minxinjianxin@gmail.com>:
>> I'm really happy to get so much good suggestions, I will try the
>> following tools one by one, and send my use reports to this mail
>> thread. I feel that the first one I want to try is codeblocks.
>
> Well, whatever works...
>
>> emacs
>> vim
>
> If I may so interject here, let me speak on behalf of these two
> choices. I will admit that I'm an acolyte of St iGNUcius and I worship
> at the Church of Emacs[1], but nevertheless, let me try to give a
> somewhat objective reason for why you should dedicate some serious
> time at learning either Emacs or vim, or at least trying to learn
> them.
>
> The fact[2] remains that coding without touch-typing or with excessive
> wrist motion *will* slow you down. Both vim and Emacs are designed to
> train you to rewire your cerebellum to move your fingers and wrists in
> different ways to get work done. Emacs is extensible; vim is
> minimalist, but their editting philosophies are more alike than
> different: make the user work hard to get through a steep learning
> curve in order to later ease transition into Deep Hack Mode[3].
>
> It is said that flashier IDEs accomplish this better, but to me, after
> many years of Emacs, it's extremely uncomfortable to have to move my
> wrists to the arrow keys and away from homerow for tasks like moving
> the cursor or copy-pasting.
>
> There is another benefit to learning either Emacs or vim (or better,
> at least a little of both): they yield dividends elsewhere. For
> example, both vim-like and Emacs-like keys for motion and simple
> editting work in domains outside of both, like in less (the default
> pager when you look at manpages in Debian). Emacs-like keys are the
> default in any application that uses readline for receiving text
> input, and readline is everywhere (apt-cache rdepends libreadline5).
>
> Novices and the faint of heart will not like Emacs or vim. I say so
> from experience: I hated Emacs at first. But it grows on you. You
> should definitely give it a try. It's 30-year-old software, but it's
> been in development for 30 years, and it shows. It really does
> everything. vim is similarly mature, but still maintains for the most
> part its minimalistic approach.
>
> Have you let Emacs into your heart? Are you typing in its holy word, brother?
>
> GNUly yours,
> - Jordi G. H.
>
> [1] http://www.stallman.org/saint.html
> [2] Well, maybe not a fact, but I'm almost sure that if someone were
> to do a serious study on coding speed between Emacs-like or vim-like
> touch-typists and other people, the other people would lose.
> [2] http://www.catb.org/jargon/html/H/hack-mode.html
>
I agree with you, and i will learn to master them.
Thank you!
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