Re: upgrading ubuntu to debian
On Thursday 30 August 2007, Cassiano Bertol Leal wrote:
> Celejar wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Aug 2007 16:03:17 -0400
> >
> > Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com> wrote:
> >> On Thursday 30 August 2007, Ron Johnson wrote:
> >>> On 08/30/07 14:37, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> >>> [snip]
> >>>
> >>>> While it's just a small, niggling detail and may be just
> >>>> semantics, there is a true root account on Ubuntu that can be
> >>>> used the same as a root account on any Debian release. The only
> >>>> difference is it doesn't have a password on setup.
> >>>
> >>> You've GOT to be kidding... Right? Please?
> >>
> >> On Debian you enter the root pw at setup. You don't on Ubuntu,
> >> but when I setup a new Ubuntu system, all I do is create a root
> >> password w/ sudo and from then on it works like any other system
> >> with a root account.
> >>
> >> Is that so surprising, or did I miss something?
> >
> > I think that Ron understands that the root account on Ubuntu is
> > accessible by anyone without entering a password; I seem to recall
> > (from posts to this list) that actually no one can access the
> > Ubuntu root account until a password has been set for it.
>
> Not being able to access an account without a password is default
> even for Debian, AFAIK. I have done this once, deleting the password
> hash from an account in /etc/shadow, and then trying to login with
> that user. Couldn't find a way, and actually used it as some form of
> security. This is probably what happens in Ubuntu, too.
>
> Considering that the user has full sudo access and that the root
> account actually exists, it should be no surprise that a 'sudo passwd
> root' would give the user login access to the root account.
Yes. It was my mistake in how I was wording things. I was in a hurry
and thinking about another email, so I wasn't specific about the issue
of not being able to log in. I was just thinking about what I did that
worked.
Hal
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