RE: Newbie Aptitude Question about Security Updates
Found it !!!
Desktop -> Administation -> Update Manager
and yes the check shows that all is good ... :O)
-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Sneep [mailto:jan@azureservices.ca]
Sent: April 24, 2007 8:15 AM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: RE: Newbie Aptitude Question about Security Updates
Now that's what I needed to hear. You are the first to mention an "orange
asterisk" !! ... I suppose Groucho could also have said "Well if you don't
like our first answer ... we have others" :O) So is there some place on the
Gnome desktop that I can click on to get positive feedback that all the
current security updates are in place? As I have never seen an asterisk in
three months, of any color on the tool bar, I'm assuming that something
hasn't been working properly?
I have ALWAYS done the standard stable install, NEVER complied or added even
so much as one simple package and that's my frustration. I had hoped that
the OS would have been more user friendly than Windows. Just as an example,
yesterday I wasted the entire day trying to re-install the OS. Must have
wiped the hard drive, formatted it and tried the Net Install at least 5
times and couldn't figure out what prompt I had answered differently in
prior installs that worked. Finally I decided to try and make a new install
image CD. At that point I realized that a new kernel had been released this
month and my old CD wouldn't work. So now I have a new desktop to figure
out, well at least new to me. Have to figure out how to get Samba and Cups
working all over again. So in effect I'm almost back to where I was in
January. Very frustrating.
I suspect it was the new release that messed things up with Apitude in the
first place. It would have been nice if the program was smart enough to
recognise that there had been a new release and ask me if I wanted to
upgrade the kernel. But then again the Aptitude documentation makes it sound
very simple and SAFE. The program will automatically manage all the
dependencies and even remove packages that are no longer required. I had
never done an update and since I've been given the impression that program
updates are being done all the time it made sense that some dead wood would
need to be removed.
By the way, is there some way / place to identify documentation errors? Did
a search on "workgroup" to try and find out where I can specify the Windows
Workgroup in the Gnome Help documentation. Under "Network Administration
Tool Manual" , section 3.6 "To change the way your system identifies itself
in Windows networks" the documentation says that you can change the
workgroup setting. But in fact not under the General Tab nor under any of
the Tabs can you see what Workgroup is being presented never mind change it.
Documentation also mentions being able to put in WINS addresses, but none of
the tabs show that either. :O(
Jan
-----Original Message-----
From: robomod@news.nic.it [mailto:robomod@news.nic.it]On Behalf Of
BartlebyScrivener
Sent: April 23, 2007 10:57 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Newbie Aptitude Question about Security Updates
On Apr 23, 5:00 pm, "Jan Sneep" <j...@aidansnaturals.ca> wrote:
> Thanks Doug,
>
> But with all due respect ... it should be easier ... a lot easier! ...
> simple basic stuff, like getting the latest Security Updates, IMHO should
be
> a no-brainer for the average user and not require a System Administrator
to
> do ... :O(
Well now just a minute. If you did a standard install with the default
Gnome desktop, all you had to do was wait for a little orange asterik
to appear on the toolbar, click on it, and all of your security
updates would be automatically installed. No asterik means there are
no security updates. That IS dead simple.
I'm not blaming you, because it's easy to get stray advice here and
there and then end up using a program (Aptitude), even though you
don't know the options and implications. But Gnome and Synaptic are
dead simple.
You can use Ubuntu as someone suggested. That is easier, if it
installs. Though after five or six installations of each, I think
Debian installs more reliably. Ubuntu is really easy, but (again, just
my personal experience) is not as stable as Debian, assuming you
install all of the updates willy nilly on both distributions. Every so
often something breaks in a big way with an Ubuntu update. That should
not happen with Debian stable, unless you start installing your own
packages and modules.
No expert, but that's been my experience. As Groucho said, "Those are
my principles, and if you don't like them. Well, I have others."
bs
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