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Re: OT: Politics and other non-Debian ramblings



On Fri, 9 Mar 2007 08:44:01 -0500
Curt Howland <Howland@priss.com> wrote:

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> On Thursday 08 March 2007 23:12, Celejar <celejar@gmail.com> was heard 
> to say:
> > Do you really mean that societies
> > are better off when governed by tyrants than when governed by
> > democratically elected governments?
> 
> Actually, what I said was "monarchy and oligarchy", not "tyranny". As 
> any American who finds himself on the "no fly list" if tyranny cannot 
> happen with a democratically elected government, and they will assure 
> you it most certainly can.

You certainly did mention tyranny; here's the quote:

> Democracy _sucks_. It makes all problems worse and solves nothing. At
> least in a monarchy or oligarchy, the ruler has some small incentive
> to pass on a prosperous nation to their successor. These "elected"
> examples of sewage have incentive only to take every bit of loot they
> can before their term in office is up.
> 
> At least with a tyrant, they can't use the excuse, "Well, you elected
> me. You must _want_ the rape you get."

> Democracy works as a decision making process when it is voluntary,
> such as the Debian project. But then so does oligarchy (RedHat) and
> tyranny (Ubuntu, Slackware).
> 
> The difference, as has been said many times before by better men than
> I, is coercion.

 
> > Do you think that this has been 
> > historically true WRT the actual tyrants and actual democratic
> > governments that the world has experienced?
> 
> Again with the tyrants. If you want to compare tyrants and 
> non-tyrants, sure. Any non-tyrant is going to be better than a 
> tyrant, elected or not.

*You* brought up tyrants, as above.

Celejar


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