spoke too soon. firefox keeps dying with the message: kloro@debian:~$ firefox /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error:\ /usr/lib/libpangocairo-1.0.so.0: undefined symbol:\ cairo_scaled_font_get_font_options and sometimes i get with the above: X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3 Major opcode: 20 Minor opcode: 0 Resource id: 0x5800093 tom