RE: Apache2 Manhattan Virtual Classroom
Ok Paul,
Fair enough. I guess I just need to calm down a bit. Sometimes I allow this
stuff to fluster me a bit. I am Bi-Polar, so this causes me to be a bit
reactionary. I have sent some more posts since your message and I feel like
Roberto and I have the dialog working now. If it is a Microsoft product you
ever need help with. Let me know that is my arena, not Linux. I have a long
way to go here.
Cary Pembleton
IT Consultant
PC Tech Help, LLC
32 Cove Lane
Campbellsville, KY 42718
(270) 789-0187 Office
http://www.pctechhelp.net
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul E Condon [mailto:pecondon@mesanetworks.net]
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 11:31 PM
To: Cary Pembleton
Subject: Re: Apache2 Manhattan Virtual Classroom
I'm just a guy who lurks on the debian user list. FYI, the list is archived.
Every email to the list back to 1995 is available for public viewing. I see
two emails from you on July on 27 & 28 of this year (2006), and nothing in
June. Guillaume posted an answer within 10 min of the first message,
although he is six time zones away from you.
Your second message was not sent as a reply to Guillaume's post, but as a
new thread. On the debian lists, threads are formed by matching numeric
thread id.s, not by subject match. This may have kept him from noticing your
reply, or he may have gone off for the weekend.
I don't know anything about Apache, so I can't help on your software
problem.
I just like to scan Roberto's replies to improve my knowledge of Debian.
Peace.
On Mon, Jul 31, 2006 at 10:27:12PM -0400, Cary Pembleton wrote:
> Roberto,
> It appeared to me as though I was seeing nearly one hundred replies to
> posts which were "tagged" with dates and times after mine. Yes I know
> this is a community supported distribution and forum. Obviously "no
> one on this forum is paid to support me" That statement came from pure
> anger "flaming' with absolutely "zero" intelligence attached. Obviously
you omitted to "read"
> your own previous statement about "community supported". As to "Quick
> Turnaround" I have had several posts regarding this sent to this forum
> for more than 2 weeks, I do not consider a reasonable response from
> someone in that time frame to be "expecting a fast turn around". Now
> "THAT" being said, if this is the kind of "abuse" I can expect from this
forum, I "may"
> do well to look elsewhere, but contrary to "your" feelings, I do not
> believe everyone here will respond as you have in such an
> "inappropriate anger filled reactionary" way. Now, I will say thank
> you for some of your suggestions and I will "attempt" to follow
> through with them. I come from a Red Hat Linux background, so Debian,
> seems to be as close a match to this that I can find. I "will"
> apologize for offending anyone here and attempt to refrain from any posts
which might be considered angry.
>
>
> Cary Pembleton
> IT Consultant
> PC Tech Help, LLC
> 32 Cove Lane
> Campbellsville, KY 42718
> (270) 789-0187 Office
> http://www.pctechhelp.net
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roberto C. Sanchez [mailto:roberto@familiasanchez.net]
> Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 10:00 PM
> To: carywinton@pctechhelp.net
> Cc: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: Apache2 Manhattan Virtual Classroom
>
> Cary Pembleton wrote:
> > I guess either no one can help me with this, or no one wants to.
> > Fine and dandy then, I will just go download another distro and
> > start over there, eventually I will find the needed help, if I have to
frigging "pay"
> for it.
> > L8tr group.
>
> Well, there are a few things that you should know. First, Debian is a
> community-based or community-supported (or whatever) distro. For
> example, see http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=community&db=*
> (definition 2a, specifically). Second, no one in this forum is paid
> to support you. Thirdly, please feel free to find yourself another
> distro where the free support team will welcome your abusive tone with
open arms.
> If you are in need of some quick turn around help, consider hiring a
> Debian consultant. There are plenty of such people/companies listed
> on the Debian website (http://www.debian.org/consultants/) and many
> also frequent this list (reading some of the archives will give a good
idea of who they are).
>
> That said, I think your problem is twofold:
>
> 1. You do not mention that you have setup proper DNS entries or
> /etc/hosts entries for these domain names you are using. If you have
> not, no matter how hard yo utry, you will not be able to view the pages.
>
> 2. You mention creating the virtual host configuration, but you don't
> mention whether or not you restarted Apache. I know this is simple,
> but it is also easy to overlook.
>
> Now, a few recommendations:
>
> * Please provide error logs or something like that. Maybe the
> contents of /var/log/apache2/{access,error}.log. Not the whole thing,
> just the output that shows the requests and how Apache is answering them.
> * Consider reading the documentation available from ASF, especially
> the tutorial on CGI: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/en/
> * Try asking your question on the debian-isp list, where there are
> many people in the ISP business or at least administering larger
installations.
> Many of those people are also experienced Apache admins
> * Consider a new line of work. Your signature block from your earlier
> messages indicates that your title is "IT consultant." Judging by
> your company's web page, you are not a newbie to IT matters. However,
> you appear to be easily frustrated to the point of becoming combative
> when people don't jump to solve your problem. I would submit to you
> that you may find you lead a happier life if you choose a field
> without so much uncharted territory. I will leave it as an exercise
> to the interested reader to find a suitable career field that meets that
definition.
>
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> > Subject: Apache2 Manhattan Virtual Classroom
> >
> > Good Day all Debian folks!
> > I am at my wits end! YAAAAA! I have been trying for nearly a week to
> > get this Manhattan Virtual Classroom to work on my Debian 3.1 Server
> > with Apache2. According to the installation instructions for
> > Manhattan I am to place these lines listed below in the "appropriate
place"
> > ScriptAlias /manhat-bin/ /home/manhat/manhat-x.x.x/bin/
> >
> > AllowOverride None
> > Options +ExecCGI -Includes
> > Order allow,deny
> > Allow from all
> >
> > ScriptAlias /manhat-sbin/ /home/manhat/manhat-x.x.x/sbin/
> >
> >
> > AllowOverride None
> > Options +ExecCGI -Includes
> > Order allow,deny
> > Allow from all
> >
> > Alias /manhat-images/ /home/manhat/manhat-x.x.x/images/
> >
> > Options FollowSymLinks
> > AllowOverride None
> > Allow from all
> > As I understand it, the "appropriate place" for Debian 3.1 and
> > Apache
> > 2 specifically is in a Virtual Host Directive.
> > Well this meant very little to a Apache 2 Newbie like me, so I
> > started hunting around the Internet and found a file is needed for
> > each Virtual Host and should be placed in
> > /etc/apache2/sites-enabled. Ok, so I created two files here
> > www.servername.mydomain.net and www.manhat.servername.mydomain.net .
> > I placed the "Script Alias" lines in the
> > www.manhat.servername.mydomain.net So, this all seemed well and
> > good, until I tried to go to www.manhat.servername.mydomain.net. I get
nothing, nada, zips. The typical IE crud, "page cannot be displayed"
> > So I am stuck, I just want to have a simple web page where my
> > students can log in to the virtual classroom. Can anyone give me
> > some idea of what
> I need to do here?
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Cary Pembleton
> >
>
> Best wishes and good look on getting this up and running.
>
> Regards,
>
> -Roberto
>
> --
> Roberto C. Sanchez
> http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto
>
>
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