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Re: New install and newbie questions



On Fri, Feb 17, 2006 at 07:46:36PM -0700, Charles wrote:
> I've just downloaded and installed the "sarge" distribution on a computer I use for a test bed.  Since I'm used to hosing this box and reinstalling to learn more, most of the hardware present is fairly generic and well supported across both Linux and Windows.
> 
Hi Charles,
welcome to the last distro you'll ever use: Debian!

> So far, I have network connectivity and throughput on my DSL router for broadband access.  I have a basic load of applications installed.  Mozilla works fine, so the desktop, GUI, and network connectivity are OK.
> 

you seem to have gotten every thing going, so far so good!

> The character-based installation threw me for a loop, and I have rather a few more questions based on previous, now false, assumptions.

This is because we support 11 archs. so that is the only way (so far) to
support a wide variety of hardware! (there is a graphical version in the
works which will allow eastern and indic scripts as well)
> 
> 1)  Is there a command line or series of command lines that will update the fresh installation with all outstanding security updates?  I've become accustomed to using urpmi, and this is different.  What I would llike to do is issue these lines to insure I have an up-to-date system.
> 

Yes. that is the beauty of apt-get. If you run Sarge (or stable), you
should add the 'security' and 'volitile' lines to your
/etc/apt/sources.list to get these updates. 'security' is for security
updates which means it only fixes bugs that are security related. And
with this stable release we added 'volitile' which is for updates for a
new category of software: mozilla, clamav virus updates, whois which as
software that need updates to be useful for a stable system.

the basics:
apt-get update
this updates your list of software available. this is ususaly done
before either of the next 2 commands.
and ONE of the next 2 commands:
apt-get upgrade
this gets updated versions of software but will not remove or add any software
from your system even if an update is avalable
ap-get dist-upgrade
this will update versions of software but will allow removal and
addition of software for adding new versions
the difference between the last two takes a bit of explaining


> 2)  Same as #1, but for bug fixes on installed packages.

see above

> 
> 3)  What can I do with the 14 CD's and two update CD's in order to integrate them into the system?  The default GUI is going to be set to KDE, and KDE has kpackage which I remember from previous distributions and which also recognizes the Debian format.  My eventual interest is in being able to install and remove packages on the fly, and I understand the 14 CD's comprise all the software available and specifically modified for Debian.


if you do not have net access, then you would use the 14 cd's for all
your software need. but if you do, then they are only good for the basic
install. you can add them to /etc/apt/sources.list with the apt-cd tool.
The cd's are created by order of use which means that cd#1 is used by
everyone and cd#14 is contains the least used software. You can use many
frontends for dpkg (the basic tool which is similar to rpm): kpackage,
synaptic, apt-get, aptitude, wajig,feta. The most commonly used is
aptitude and apt-get. But try them all.
> 
> 4)  Is there an online resource that will start walking me through the differences between Debian and, say, Redhat, Mandrake, Suse, or other distributions?
There is the debian refernce and the apt refernce.
apt-get install debian-reference
apt-get install apt-howto
and if you really want detailed stuff: get martin's book: at
http://debiansystem.info

the last thing: to find stuff:
apt-cache search <keyword>

cheers,
Kev

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