Mike McCarty wrote: [some stuff about formatting discs and boot] I forgot one more layer of format: OS install. A volume may have a file system without an OS on it. Mike -- p="p=%c%s%c;main(){printf(p,34,p,34);}";main(){printf(p,34,p,34);} This message made from 100% recycled bits. You have found the bank of Larn. I can explain it for you, but I can't understand it for you. I speak only for myself, and I am unanimous in that!