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Re: Troubles: Internet, Printer, Sound More.



David R. Litwin wrote:

Alright. I'm Useless (clearly) when it comes to Linux. The three
things mentioned in the subject line I can not even get to work.
Please, help!
You might have better success breaking this thread into three separate threads; one for each topic.

I have tried to download the print-driver. I tried to install it. All
was going well: Then, it said to enter: /etc/init.d/hplip (or, in my
case, hpijs 1.7.1) restart. At this point, it says that that folder
doesn't exist: It doesn't.
What version of Debian are you running? Issue the command "cat /etc/debian_version" and let us know the results.

Also, it might be useful for us to know if the lines in "/etc/apt/sources.list" point to stable (or Woody), or testing (or Sarge), or unstable (or Sid), or some combination thereof. It might be easier just to post the contents of that file.

What kernel version are you running? The command "uname -a" will provide this information.

I suspect you're running Woody/Stable. This version is extremely ancient now, and for a non-server (that is, for a user's desktop machine that doesn't need 24x7 reliability but does need better reliability than you'd probably get with MS-Windows), you'd probably be better off to use Sid/Unstable. You'll get newer software that is more likely to work with your hardware.

You're probably also running a 2.2 kernel; again, upgrading to 2.4 (or even 2.6) will improve your chances of getting working hardware.

Of course, it'll be easier to upgrade with a working network connection ....

Next, sound. It simply will not work.
In addition to knowing what version of Debian and what version of the kernel you have, we need to know the results of the command "lspci".

Also, you'll need to be a member of the "audio" group in order for sound to work. If you issue the command "groups" you can see the groups of which you're a member. If "audio" is not one of them, issue this command as root: "adduser litwin audio" (where "litwin" is your login name), then logout litwin and log back in. You should now be in the audio group. (Of course, that's just one step among a possible several; like I say, more info is needed.)

Internet is last (and most complex). I have good reason to suspect
that some thing is using it.

I don't understand this statement that something is using it.

I have an Ethernet card and use High
Speed Internet (DSL, yes?).

I don't know. It might be DSL, it might be High Speed Internet from you cable company. It might be a LAN in your office. It might be a wireless connection. It might be a satellite connection.

The two most common high-speed connections for home users, at least in the States, is cable and DSL. Do you have another machine (or another OS) that connects? If so, does it just plug into an ethernet cable and you have Internet Access, of did you have to install some software from the ISP, or do you have to click a button to initiate your connection, or what?

I also have need of ppp or what ever verb
I use there.

PPP is for dialing up. It's unrelated to high speed internet.

Unless you meant PPPOE, which is sometimes used with high speed internet. But I've never had to use it and don't know anything about it.

Do you really mean you also need to dial-up? If so, this is yet a fourth topic that should be broken out into a separate thread. Chances are _really_ good that you have a "win-modem" (aka "piece of garbage" - okay, so I feel strongly about these things). In that case, your chances of getting it to work in Linux are about 50-50; I wouldn't hold my breath, and I wouldn't expect it to be easy.

At the startup scripts (by the bye: How do I access those
(I. E.: what I actually saw) when in normal usage?) I think I saw some
thing like IRQ 0 may not work. Some thing like that. Then, it keeps
saying (when I run the ASDL / PPP Config (and what not) that
sciosfflags (or, what ever it is) says network is down or busy.
During boot up, there are two types of messages.

There are those generated by the kernel as it loads and probes. These can be accessed with the command "dmesg" (which also shows kernel messages after booting, so if it's been a while since you booted, the boot messages may have been pushed out of the way by more recent messages). You can also see these types of messages (and others) by prowling around in the log files, generally stored in "/var/log".

The other type of messages during booting are those generated by the start-up scripts. Generally these are not logged (although prowling about in the log files might net you some of that info). As long as you haven't left the console screen on which these boot messages display (that is, if X hasn't started, or tried to start, and you haven't pressed a keystroke like Alt-F3 to switch to a different virtual terminal (VT)), then you can scroll up through the messages with Shfit-PgUp (and Shift-PgDn).

This second type of messages are being generated by the startup scripts, located in "/etc/init.d". Not all these scripts are run at every boot-up.

When you boot up, the BIOS runs its POST (assuming an x86-type system, Pentium, AMD, etc). Then the BIOS looks for a boot medium, finding it on the hard drive in most cases. This starts loading the Linux kernel. Once it's loaded, it runs the "init" program, which uses "/etc/inittab" as its configuration file. This configuration file generally specifies runlevel 2 to be the default runlevel, and instructions the "rc" program to run all the scripts in "/etc/init.d" which are referenced in "/etc/rc2.d" by a similarly-named file which starts with an "S" (for "Start"; "K" scripts "Kill" things).

There are several ways of capturing the output of these startup scripts. But perhaps the easiest is to make sure you don't try to start X on boot-up, so that you can Shift-PgUp through them on the console. Accomplishing that is itself dependent on what method you're using to start X, if indeed you are.


If any of this is too vague, I'll get you precisely what you need.

Hopefully the above will help you provide better information for us to take a stab at helping you.

Thank you kindly and consider me a dunce with Linux: Treat me like a
child and explain every thing fully. Thank you again.
--
Kent



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