Re:Knoppix is Not Debian
On Sunday 08 February 2004 01:15, debian-user-digest-request@lists.debian.org
wrote:
> Re: Knoppix is Not Debian
> From: Marc Wilson <msw@cox.net>
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>
> On Sat, Feb 07, 2004 at 10:28:03PM +0100, David Baron wrote:
> > Once you do the HD installation, you have their, allbeit mixed, distro
> > based on Debian and KDE.
>
> Ok, now... we've got a stupid who couldn't figure out how to read well
> enough to run the Debian installer. You thus propose to him that he
> install a completely non-standard Knoppix, which he does.
>
> > You then upgrade and play with it the way you would with any purer Debian
> > installation.
>
> And *now* you propose that the same stupid move to unstable, which is the
> only possible sane upgrade target from the mess that is Knoppix. Just
> great... he didn't have enough clue to understand *stable*, and now you
> propose to shunt him directly to *unstable*. Please.
>
> > What Knoppix gives you is decent hardware detection and auto-setup.
> > Debian will itself be doing this.
>
> Yes, unfortunately even Debian will be pandering to the stupids who can't
> be bothered to read well enough to know what was on the invoice they just
> signed.
>
> And NO, before you whine... there's no reason why the stupids should have
> to know that. There's no reason why he should be installing operating
> systems, either, any more than he should be building cars. Or performing
> brain surgery. Contrary to popular belief, there ARE some things that Joe
> Stupid has no business doing.
>
> Sorry... the answer to Barbie's statement "But that's so hard!" is not to
> dumb it down so that Barbie can continue not to think, but rather to
> understand that there are some things Barbie just shouldn't be doing
> without appropriate training.
This is little whining and condescending. .... and it is not a "stable" SID
even though some components may be from that. One has to start somewhere.
I actually downloaded the Knoppix image from a Lockergnome bulletin about
using it for emergency hard disk data recovery from the CD-boot. When I
learned from their site that I could do a HD-install, I made partitions and
did so. I had been considering buying the Lindows, have been corresponing
with him for a while.
So ... with the great help from members of this list, I have tried to build
kernels (did not succede) and modify things (yes and no). I will soon upgrade
this whole mess to 2.6.*. So what if a Knoppix script sets up the desktop?
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