On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 11:30:53 -0400 Daniel Burrows <dburrows@debian.org> wrote: > > I was just looking at whether to upload noteedit to > testing-proposed-updates. In the process, I hit the noteedit homepage, > and discovered that upstream has apparently abruptly ceased development > and removed his web page because of a potential possible future port of > Finale to Linux. Huh? Are you serious? I'm surprised at this because: 1. I haven't heard anything about Coda saying this. Certainly if they were indicating they'd be porting Finale to Linux, you'd expect a lot of discussion about it on linux-audio-user; there's been none. The last I read on this subject was from July 8, when one regular there wrote: } I had a meeting with John Paulson (President and founder of Finale) the } other day and spoke with him regarding the possibility of producing a Linux } version of Finale now that they have produced an OSX version. He mentioned } that they had looked at it but decided not to develop a version at this } time. 2. noteedit released version 2.7.0 on July 23; like all noteedit releases, it was announced on linux-audio-users and linux-audio-announce. Joerg Anders hasn't posted anything since then (and in particular, no announcement that noteedit is dying upstream). 3. There hasn't been any discussion on linux-audio-users of noteedit dying upstream. (and this must have happened very recently, or there would have been) The posts that are linked-to on his page regarding said Finale port are simply discussion part of the discussion from which the above quote was taken, in which various people mentioned that Finale on Linux would be a good thing, others replied that noteedit and Rosegarden4 are nice, and others replied that they're not sufficient for what they need to do. Various people said they'd like to see a Linux port of Finale, and were planning to write Coda to show interest; but there was never a mention that they were doing it. I wonder what's going on here. > I am trying to decide between the following options: > > (1) Orphan noteedit. (already done, working on QA-maintained uploads > now) > > (2) Orphan noteedit *and* request its removal from unstable and sarge. > > > At the moment I'm leaning towards (2). The reasons are: > > - due to its wide dependency tree, and particularly its dependency > on tse3 (another troublesome package), noteedit has been a pain > since I took it over. > > - major functionality in the program (ie, playing the score I'm > editing) has never worked for me, maybe because I don't have a > sound card with a good MIDI synthesizer. > > - I don't use this package; I just typeset music in lilypond. > > - I don't want to take over upstream maintainence of noteedit. > Whoever adopts this package will also pretty much have to become > upstream, even if they just stick to fixing bugs. > > - There are alternatives in unstable/sarge. I've heard that > rosegarden4 may be better, for instance....although on my > computer it just hangs forever when I start it. In addition, I > think that Rosegarden is unlikely to suddenly replace its > homepage with a message saying "because ot [sic] the upcoming > Finale port the RoseGarden development ends here." > > - I don't think Debian should be shipping abandonware in stable > releases. I agree with all of the above. I use Rosegarden4 instead of noteedit; it works for me, its MIDI features are more powerful (good for composition), it's easier to figure out without running to docs, etc. But I'm sad to see noteedit go. You might wanna mention this on linux-audio-users. I say this because there are a lot of AGNULA/Demudi people out there who aren't subscribed to debian-user and who might care about this, have suggestions, be willing to jump in as maintainer, or make 3rd party .debs available. > If someone wants to step up and take over Debian *and upstream* > maintainence for noteedit, please let me know in the near future; if > there are users who really need noteedit, please let me know. If I > don't hear from either group in the "near" future, I will file a bug > against ftp.debian.org requesting the noteedit be removed from both > unstable and sarge. You might wanna mention this on linux-audio-users. I say this because there are a lot of AGNULA/Demudi people out there who aren't subscribed to debian-user and who might care about this, have suggestions, be willing to jump in as maintainer, or make 3rd party .debs available. Just a thought. -c -- Chris Metzler cmetzler@speakeasy.snip-me.net (remove "snip-me." to email) "As a child I understood how to give; I have forgotten this grace since I have become civilized." - Chief Luther Standing Bear
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