RE: Debian has turned unusable.
Hello,
I'm new to the Debian community, but I have used RedHat for about 8
years, and Gentoo for almost two. I must say, Debian is quite good
compared to these other distro's. Perhaps RH is more stable than
Sid/Sarge, but there is NO way to install a base system from a RH CD.
The smallest install I was ever able to get was over 450MB and included
LOTS of extras that I really didn't want.
I see lots of people advocating Sid(unstable) as a desktop, but
shouldn't people who are not developers/maintainers gravitate to Sarge?
Isn't testing/debugging Sarge supposed to be a priority? Also, since
packages automatically drop into sarge from Sid after 10 days (unless
there is an unresolved issue), you are likely to get all the great new
apps that you want, but without someone dropping in a new, "buggy"
version by mistake.
Also, this would make more bug reports get filed against Sarge, which
would help to progress it to the next stable.
I realise that I have written these in a somewhat argumentative form,
but read them as questions. As I said, I'm new here ( < 3 months ), but
I have read up as much as I can find on the releases and the procedures
for advancement.
I have used Sarge for about 6 installs now (including upgrade from Woody
and the new installer), and I'm very pleased with it's performance and
package features. I used Woody for my file server (which now has a
local Debian Mirror!), mostly because I don't care about the desktop on
it, and I like to have the security patches, but I have Sarge running on
two laptops, three desktops and a DB server. Also, I'm running Kernel
2.6.3 with the proprietary Nvidia driver and VMware Workstation on my
work laptop. I note this because these things were exceptionally
problematic on other distros, but were cheezy-eazy on Debian.
--JATF
-----Original Message-----
From: news [mailto:news@sea.gmane.org]On Behalf Of Monique Y. Mudama
Sent: Monday, April 12, 2004 7:59 PM
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Debian has turned unusable.
On 2004-04-12, Adam Aube penned:
> Monique Y. Mudama wrote:
>
>> Well, "more unstable than the stable distribution" takes a lot longer
>> to type and wouldn't fit on a CD volume label =P
>
> What about "current", then?
>
This would encourage people to use the unstable distribution, which by
definition isn't considered ready for prime time. The truth is that
there are tradeoffs; a one-word name just isn't going to capture those
tradeoffs. If anything, the right term for unstable might be "head" or
"tip" -- or would that be experimental?
But what do I know? I'm just a random user. It does seem to me that
we've had the name game a few times, and every time a dev has strongly
indicated that we should leave well enough alone.
--
monique
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