I have apt-get'ted all parts of xfce4 and when I edit the login manager in KDE 3.1.4, the option xfce4 invokes xfwm4. When I select xfce4 from the login manager, the login manager disappears and then I'm left with a blank screen. None of the mouse buttons bring up any menus as they would in a normal wm. Can anyone help me try out xfce4? I'm running Debian unstable. -- Comments are appreciated, Bob