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Re: Is there any encrypted or secure NFS?



On Mon, 5 Jan 2004, Brett Carrington wrote:

> On Mon, Jan 05, 2004 at 09:14:27PM -0500, Mark Roach wrote:
> > > This might be encrypted, but hardly secure, for instance if user A has 
> > > physical access to NFS client
> > > and user B has physical access to nfs client, what prevents user A from 
> > > accessing user B's files through VPN?
> > 
> > File permissions.

wont help ...  the user has acces to their files on the other end

> Even so, you'd have this problem with or without an IPSec VPN. The VPN's
> job, in this case, is lower-layer encryption. File systems on your
> host/NFS Client are out of the spectrum of what a VPN can do. A VPN is
> only going to protect your data from snoopers of NFS packets.

"maybe"

places where the cracker can see your "credit card" ( sensitive data )
	- while you're away from your desk
	- while its still in netscape cache
	- in transit to the webstore
	- while its in memory (-- you've got bigger problems --)
	- vpn/ssh snoopping of the wire  (-- you've gove bigger problems--)
	- from your home network ssh'd/vpn'd into the corp lan
	- trash can

- i think the major comment, was what if the dude just sits at the
  terminal while your away ..
	- encrypted traffic or encrypted fs will not prevent the cracker
	from seeing the "good data" they're not supposed to have seen

	- always passwd protect your screen 
	and always use different passwds for each pc
 
"encryption" is still uselsess if you use ez 2 remember pass phrase or
words from the dictionary or common phrases and "misstyped" passwds ..
	or written down on a piece of paper that is easy to find on the
	keyboard, monitor, mousepad, drawers, rolodex, bookmarkers, ...

	- it's even more trivial to go snooping if you use passwdless
	logins

- allowing nfs just makes all the snooping easier ...
	too many old holes - that may or may not be patched

	nfs --> "Not For Security"

	setting up and properly running a "secure nfs" is a whole other
	ballgame

c ya
alvin	



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