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Re: Using RAID chipsets in the motherboard.



hi ya ramesh

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003, Ramasubramanian Ramesh wrote:

> 1) All most all of the newer motherboards come with SATA RAID. Is this usable 
>    as is without any additional kernel drivers. I ask this because I read in 
>    many knowledge base resources that  a HW controller looks just like an IDE 
>    controller.

dont bother ...

sata by itself is a good brain twister to some ...

onboard raid has never worked .. imho
	- never worked ----> allows for hands off booting of any disks
	in the array w/o any data loss or "fiddling time" loss

> 2) What about additional on board RAID controllers? Like the VIA/PROMISE 
>    Chipsets built into some of the ASUS mother boards?

list of hardware raid controllers
	http://www.1U-Raid5.net/HW/hw.txt

>  Do they require 
>    additional drivers or can I use them just like any other IDE controller?

yes.. you need a driver for that hardware ... 

3ware (raid cards) has readily available and easily understandable raid
drivers for their cards

hw raid -- you're stuck with what they give you for driver support
   and monitoring

sw raid .. do what you like to your hearts content ..

> 3) My need for using these controllers is to have the ability to add extra disk
>    and I do not need their RAID features.

neither hardware/software raid does not lend itslef too easily to "expand
your raid" to larger capacity
	- you cannot merely add a disk 

	- you have to have a resizable partition and resizable fs to "add
	a new disk" to add mroe capacity to your 100% full raid subsystem

> But if RAID can be had without much 
>    trouble I definitely would like to give it a try. The bottom line is I like     to get beyond the

raid is too much trouble for the benefits one gets

- you want raid iff ..
	- you cannot afford for that data to go offline
	- you have the $$$ to have a 2nd raid backup system
	- you can sync data correctly from raid1 to raid2
	- you lose more $$$ in being offline than you would be manually
	rebuilding a new disk and restore from backups

	- you want to protect your system against one disk failure
	and you know what the mtbf is for your cpu, memory, fans, disks, 
	and general user admin boo-boos and go offline anyway

> 4 drive limit with the standard primary and secondary 
>    controller on the Mobo with the use of these additional builtin controllers.

you can have up to 12 (ide)disks in a raid subsystem
and even mroe in scsi based raids
	- i dont know of anybody with more than 12 ide disks in their raid
	or willing to play with that much data in an untested manner
	- you'd be on the bleeding edge at more than 12 ide disks

c ya
alvin



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