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Re: alternative to mrproject (gnome project planner)



On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 23:28:14 -0200, 
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> wrote in message 
<[🔎] 20031117012814.GB27020@khazad-dum.debian.net>:

> On Sun, 16 Nov 2003, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> > On Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:37:51 -0200, 
> > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org> wrote in message 
> > <[🔎] 20031115143751.GA708@khazad-dum.debian.net>:
> > > Try www.taskjuggler.org.  Debian packages are being produced as we
> > > speak (of their CVS version).
> > > 
> > > Unlike mrproject, this one actually works instead of staying there
> > > just trying to look pretty with a ton of bugs rotting inside and
> > > major required functionality missing.
> >  
> > ..is any of these project juggler toys built as front end to a 
> > real database like postgresql?  
> 
> Better. A standard text file, true to unix tradition.  File the text
> file in a non-dumb way, and you can have full version control, etc. 
> Write the scripts, and you can have it anywhere (including generated
> from a postgres DB, I suppose, but why?).

..big projects like our platforms, with a few hundred people reporting
progress and resource expenditure, trying to get it all right done just 
in time?  ;-)   Takes transaction lock control, just like in the banks.

..I understand the concrete guys in Norwegian Contractors wound up 
doing their own thing because they weren't too happy with Metier et al
offerings, and in those days, money was _no_ problem, except when
running high and late on public, Hydro or Statoil funds.  ;-)

> It can be plugged to CGIs to produce a VERY powerful web-enabled
> project management system, even.
> 
> It generates a XML file with all the data for plotting tools to parse
> (this is how the GANTT tables are produced).  One tool for each
> functionality, again proper unix tradition: do just one thing, and do
> it well.
> 
> Also, juggler does proper resource allocation and control (and by that
> I mean something FAR more intelligent than stupid checkboxes that just
> add a few lines in the report and cost calculation), something that
> mrproject does not even try.  And I happen to thing a "project
> management" tool without resource allocation and control is USELESS.
> 
> The last one is the reason I start using it.  It has a few bugs, but I
> found nothing that one cannot work around, so far.

..the thing is, come up with a good front end to the database, it be
postgreql or a text file.  10 years ago, there was some use of 
Microsoft Project as a data entry front end.

-- 
..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt... ;-)
...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry...
  Scenarios always come in sets of three: 
  best case, worst case, and just in case.



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