Re: Opium [was: Re: freelance sysadmining -- superlong -- [WAS: "Red Hat recommends Windows for consumers"]]
On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 12:00, Pigeon wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 15, 2003 at 10:01:36AM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On Sat, 2003-11-15 at 05:08, cr wrote:
> > >
> > > That's kinda a risky argument to rely on, since if accepted it inevitably
> > > leads to the question - why does the US have ten times as many homicidal
> > > criminals per capita, than other countries? Answers in the back of an
> > > envelope please, addressed to the Director-General, FBI, Washington (I guess
> > > he'd dearly like to know...) <vbeg>
> >
> > You think the (main) reasons why the US has become a relatively
> > violent society over the past 45 years would fit on the back of an
> > envelope? Well, lets see what's on the top of my head:
> > - breakdown of the family
> > - divorce/abandonment
> > - fear by modern parents of damaging children's self-esteem
> > - parents wanting to be "friends"
> > - federal regs that make it financially more attractive for the
> > father to leave.
> > - excessive amounts of TV
> > - breakdown of public morality
> > - libertine-ism instead of liberty
> > - for *example*, the HBOization of broadcast TV
> > - ties in with "breakdown of the family"
> > - growth in use of illegal drugs, in past ~40 years
> > - ties into "breakdown of the family" and "breakdown of public
> > morality"
>
> But these factors are not unique to the US, so they don't really
> answer the question of why the US should have a disproportionate
> number of murderers.
Hmmm.
Inherently violent society? No, can't be, because the US didn't
used to be violent. Maybe there was a "latently violent tendency"
(that's not present in many other societies) just waiting for soci-
etal breakdown to manifest itself?
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Ron Johnson, Jr. ron.l.johnson@cox.net
Jefferson, LA USA
"they love our milk and honey, but preach about another way of
living"
Merle Haggard, "The Fighting Side Of Me"
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