On Tue, 2003-09-16 at 18:43, gerald simpkin wrote: > I am a new user of Debian. I have the operating system installed but > due to some difficulties cannot seem able to install packages. At > install when I use apt it starts okay but then I get a configuration > error in configuring Binutils . I do not need to tell you how > important this feature is. It returns an error trouble linking kernel. > It says this problem occurs in older kernels and some new (woody is > using an old kernel?). It further says the problem is not with the > linker but the kernel source. It says to edit linker script for > architecture. It goes on to give an example, 'arch/i386/vmlinux.lds'. > I found two files using the name arch (the other was a zip file). The > one I got into was binary and I was unable to read it. I can't read > much anyway because the less command is not available. apt-setup is > not available either once you boot into the operating system. Anyway > there is no arch directory. The script suggested I acc ess file > vmlinux.lds and remove an entry on a discard line called > *(.text.exit). Unless I can find that file or the directory and then > the file I cannot try anything. I would be forced to try dselect or > dpkg to install the things I want. I know you guys did not release > woody with such a critical defect. I have CDs from a endor with a link > on a Debian wedsite. The bill for this copy is going into dispute for > this and other reasons. If you know of any solutions to this problem > please email me (or post them). > > I think I subscribed to your user list.I subscribed under using this > email account or another (I'm not sure). If this email address is not > signed up to the user list please put this email address on the user > list. I would appreciate it. --------> End E-Mail Number one. > I checked to see if I could turn off the html > characteristics of the email sent when > using free yahoo email. I could not find a > configuration tool to send this in plain text > so I am sorry in advance about this email. > What I am most concerned about is > getting help with the Debian problem I > described (although it should be noted to > send questions in plain text if that is the > way you want to get it). I went to the > Debian organizations website and it said if > a new user (paraphrasing) has a problem > to send questions to this email address > (did not mention format). I got your > message now what about an answer to my > question? Is there a site I can go to for this > information? Do you know how to solve > this problem? > If you want Debian to be the Linux flavor > for professional programmers then form a > private club and remove the manifesto > from the website. If you want the Debian > flavor to survive then I advise you to > consider the masses otherwise it'll be a > project of you and a thousand or so > programmers. -----------> End of Second E-Mail Gerald, For the life of me, I cannot understand you REAL question. I want you to understand, Debian *IS* the ultimate Linux Distribution. I find your wording very insulting. You need to ask smart questions. You need to be a bit more logically descriptive. There are a lot warnings Debian give that OTHER distributions just gloss over. The Kernel Linking issue with older Kernels. By default Woody installs with the 2.2.20 Kernel. You can choose the BF2.4 Kernel (which is 2.4.18 non-initrd) if you want to try newer kernels. I understand your problems with the binutils package, that is a "informational" warning. It is of no concern for you if you run Debian Stock Kernels (which is the recommended way to go). Also, understand there is NO commercial interest in Debian. It is 100% Volunteer... and 100% Non-Profit... it Does have a Social Contract that is very stringent about what can be "Debian" ... So when you claim Debian will just be a "Clubber" style Distro... you are sadly mistaken. It will more than likely out live RedHat, ManDrake, Slackware, SuSE or any other Commercial Distro barring commercial distros based on Debian. I am sure you meant o harm, but you came across very belligerent... Help/Tell me or Else never works on Debian people, rather it just sets you into the ignore/twit file they have. My best advice to you is: Ask Smart Questions - http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html Be pleasant - Do be belligerent Give GOOD details, in other words describe the problem well, describe what you have done to try and fix it (if anything), Tell the circumstances under which it was encountered. Last but not least realize we are ALL volunteers... most of us have real jobs besides trying to make Debian and Linux in general a good thing. There are some VERY VERY good heads chocked full of info lurking on this list, if your demeanor is one of an "open mind" you'll be surprised how many more people respond. -- greg, greg@gregfolkert.net REMEMBER ED CURRY! http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry Optical delusions still themselves when you pass by in convexing pomp and sacral trance
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