Re: VMWare

[jeff <jeff@beatnikcafe.com>]

Ok, I know this is a debian list but I just wanted to 
contribute something, it's not meant to take away from 
debian just my experience (linited as it may be).  I am a 
novice linux user so i also used vmware for a while for 
similar reason, to learn more about linux, especially 
desktop use. VMWare helped me get a chance to try several 
differnt versions of linux in a very convienient way.  Red 
Hat, Suse, Lycoris and Mandrake all installed very 
simply.  I haven't tried Debian but maybe you can try one 
other of the Linux distros I mentioned to help narrow down 
the reason you can't get debian working in graphical 
mode.  

I would really love to know if anyone has been able to 
install VMWare on a Linux host in order to install other 
linux, bsd's and windows os's.  

Jeff  


21:10:41, lists1 wrote:

> On Thursday 05 June 2003 04:27, mavi-net internet 
hizmetleri wrote:
> > I am a Windows User, I want to learn GNU/Linux Debian, 
but all of my
> > special docs and project in Win32 platform. So I tried 
to use VMWare to
> > learn Debian, after that, if I can success that, I 
will transfer all of my
> > projects to Linux. Now; I have a problem about Debian 
in VMware, graphical
> > sytem does not run. I tried a lot of screen config on 
XF86Config file but
> > noting change. So, if anybody now, can you help me 
about using Debian in
> > VMware on Win32 machine?
> >
> > Thanks
> 
> Try Knoppix.  It isn't a straight install of Debian, but 
it is Debian based,
> 
> and has the apt package manager which works if you 
decide to install to the 
> hard disk.  I wouldn't recommend the knoppix hard disk 
install though, as it
> 
> requires a ridiculous 2.2+ GB in /.
> 
> You can try the distro out by simply downloading and 
burning the iso image of
> 
> knoppix, or buying it from one of the distributors for a 
few dollars if you 
> don't have a broadband connection or cd burner.  If you 
can boot from the cd
> 
> or floppy drive, this is an ideal distro to try out, as 
it doesn't alter your
> 
> hard drive (unless you decide to install it to hard 
disk), and once you log 
> out of knoppix, it ejects the cd, and nothing is changes 
on your hard drive. 
> 
> If you can spare a bit of space, a couple hundred MB in 
your home directory 
> of your windows installation, you can save your 
settings, so that you don't 
> have to re-enter your networking info (ethernet card, ip 
address or dhcp, 
> nameservers, new passwords, etc), it saves it all for 
you in a single file, 
> which you can delete from windows at any time later if 
you need the space.
> 
> If you do decide to use knoppix, make sure it can use 
your windows swap 
> partition, if you have one, or create some swap space 
(temporary file on your
> 
> windows drive), and allocate enough space (at least a 
couple hundred MB if 
> possible, more if you have less than 128 MB Ram) for the 
swap file.  If you 
> save your settings in the configuration file you 
created, you can also save 
> the swap space, if you can spare the room.
> 
> To boil it down, if you have the space, save 
configuration info in one file,
> 
> save a knoppix/debian home directory (for your debian 
files and for your 
> windows files you'd like to edit under knoppix/debian), 
and save a swap file.
>  
> When you boot up the disk, it may ask you (especially if 
low on ram) how much
> 
> space you'd like to allocate for swap.  Once the desktop 
appears, go to 
> "start" (lower left icon on bottom taskbar), 
then "Knoppix" then choose among
> 
> the handful of directory choices there.  One or more of 
the sub-directories 
> will allow you to do all I mentioned above, another will 
allow you to set up
> 
> your network if not using dhcp, and another will allow 
you to start your ssh
> 
> daemon if and when needed.
> 
> Once that is all done, remember to save your settings 
before logging out. 
> The 
> next time you want to practice with knoppix/debian, all 
you have to do is 
> type: knoppix myconfig=scan  at the boot prompt, and it 
will pick up all your
> 
> previous settings and find your home and swap 
directories if/when created.
> 
> To see your windows files, you'll need to "mount" the 
indicated partitions 
> (should show up on your desktop), and then you can 
browse your windows files
> 
> by opening konqueror browser (or other favorite), and 
typing /mnt/hda1 or 
> /mnt/hda2 or /mnt/hda3 or whatever your hard drive 
partitions show up as.  If
> 
> you have more than one ide hard disk, you'll have hda 
and hdb, and the cdrom
> 
> may be among these, hdb, hdc or whatever, or it may show 
under /mnt/cdrom as
> 
> well.  If you have scsi drives, or a raid card with ide 
drives, the 
> partitions will show up as sda1, sda2, etc.
> 
> Don't forget that the partitions may be mounted read 
only, so that you don't
> 
> run the danger of writing to your windows partitions.  
If you need to change
> 
> this, you'll have to mount as root, and possibly edit 
the fstab file as well
> 
> (don't remember right now).
> 
> Get on Knoppix's mailing list, and check the archives, 
and faqs.  It's  a 
> little sparse right now, but the faq helps, and after 
checking the archives,
> 
> if you don't have an answer you're looking for, post the 
question.
> 
> One of the good things about knoppix is that it picks up 
a lot of hardware 
> that other distros have difficulty with.  This may help 
with your graphics 
> problem.
> 
> Now if knoppix would only fix their hard disk installer 
(ridiculous / space 
> requirement, non-partitioning, non ReiserFS unless 
already existing)...
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Bing.
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