Subject: debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2003 : Issue 15
Today's Topics:
Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian s [ Alan Chandler <alan@chandlerfamily. ]
Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0 [ Hanasaki JiJi <hanasaki@hanaden.com ]
Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] [ Bill Moseley <moseley@hank.org> ]
Preferred procedure for getting extr [ Lloyd Zusman <ljz@asfast.com> ]
Re: Unofficial Debian package manage [ David Z Maze <dmaze@debian.org> ]
Re: Preferred procedure for getting [ Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> ]
Debian [ "Larry Stallings" <twoguns@nethere. ]
Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0 [ David Z Maze <dmaze@debian.org> ]
Re: Debian [ "nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org> ]
Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED] [ Elijah <desiderata@softhome.net> ]
ogg123 segmentation fault [ "David H. Clymer" <david@nittanylin ]
real player plugin only as root [ John Kerr Anderson <jaanders@tm.net ]
Re: Debian [ Frank Gevaerts <frank@gevaerts.be> ]
Re: real player plugin only as root [ ernst <ernst@bluezone.no> ]
Re: ogg123 segmentation fault [ Stephan Seitz <nur-ab-sal@gmx.de> ]
OpenGL [ Chris Burns <fooberman@mail.utexas. ]
Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Lib [ Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.c ]
Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian s [ Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net> ]
Re: Linux and Intel's Hyperthreading [ mess-mate <messmate@tiscali.fr> ]
Re: gqview and pgm [ Lourens Steenkamp <palchen@ananzi.c ]
Subject: Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:23:32 +0000
From: Alan Chandler
<alan@chandlerfamily.org.uk>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
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On Thursday 02 Jan 2003 2:53 pm, Richard PAVY wrote:
> I added
> ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/
>
> In the sources.list file but "apt-get install kde" with root privileges
> (I'm using debian sarge, it shouldn't be any harder than that???)
> Doesn't seen to work. It says :
>
> server:~# apt-get install kde
Several things,
1) you need to do an apt-get update after adding the line
2) I think, that this particular archive (which is not the official debian
one) does not have the task kde defined. You'll have to apt-get the
individual groups of packages (kdelibs4 kdebase, kdeadmin etc) separately.
3) You may need to remove all existing kde packages before trying this.
You might find it easier whats happening if you use dselect or aptitude.
- --
Alan Chandler
alan@chandlerfamily.org.uk
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Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 10:25:57 -0600
From: Hanasaki JiJi <hanasaki@hanaden.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
CC:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Ran into this sometime back myself.. it was related to gdm options.
something about a -nolisten option
James Tappin wrote:
> On Thu, 2 Jan 2003 02:12:34 -0800
> "Kevin" <kevin@robertsesq.com> wrote:
>
>
>>FYI
>>If I try xhost +localhost
>>xhost: unable to open display "debian:0.0"
>>
>
>
> 3 alternatives spring to mind; either:
> xhost +debian # as the original user
> or:
> export DISPLAY=localhost:0 # as root before running make xconfig
> or even:
> ssh -X root@localhost # instead of su
>
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Subject: Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:35:07 -0800 (PST)
From: Bill Moseley <moseley@hank.org>
To: Elijah <desiderata@softhome.net>
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org
On 3 Jan 2003, Elijah wrote:
> It took me awhile to download new modutils, binutils, 2.4.20 kernel
> sources, etc. etc. .compile etc .. .. none worked for me.
>
> Then I searched all over forums, /usr/share/docs/, sites, etc. and found
> a suggestion to use the kernel-headers. I downloaded the
> kernel-headers.2.4.18.deb, untarred itself to /usr/src/, 'make install'
> the nvidia-kernels .. and it WORKED! ahhh that felt good ^.^ ...
>
> Compiling the kernel-source didn't help much so using the kernel-headers
> did it for me ... wow ... I've lost a ton of sleep on this one.
I'm glad you got it working!
The above doesn't make sense to me. If you compiled your kernel you have
your kernel headers. /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz
describes this.
If you look at the Nvidia tarball file NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191/Makefile it
uses
KERNDIR=/lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)
ifeq ($(shell if test -d $(KERNDIR)/build; then echo yes; fi),yes)
KERNINC=$(KERNDIR)/build/include
else
KERNINC=/usr/src/linux/include
endif
And on my machine:
$ ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 29 Aug 7 22:07
/lib/modules/2.4.18-xfs-laptop/build -> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
points back to the kernel source directory.
I've never used a kernel-headers package. I assume it creates a similar
symlink.
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Subject: Preferred procedure for getting extra php4
functionality?
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:43:42
-0500
From: Lloyd Zusman
<ljz@asfast.com>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
I noticed that the standard debian php4 package doesn't seem to be built
with the "--enable-mime-magic" option, and therefore, it doesn't provide
the capability to use the mime_content_type() function.
What's the preferred debian procedure for getting extra php
functionality like this? Download the php4 source packages and rebuild
them myself? Send a message to the package maintainer(s)? Or ... ???
Thanks.
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ljz@asfast.com
Subject: Re: Unofficial Debian package management
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:02:56 -0500
From: David Z Maze <dmaze@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Frank Copeland <fjc@thingy.apana.org.au> writes:
> On 26 Dec 02 15:00:22 GMT, David Z Maze <dmaze@debian.org> wrote:
>
>> I've been using mini-dinstall to maintain a small private repository
>> (mostly with my custom-compiled kernels). You can add other things to
>> it, but it wants a full source package with a .changes file, which
>> means pretending to be a developer and building the package from
>> source yourself.
>
> How are you creating custom kernel packages with .changes files? I've
> been unable to work out how to do it with kernel-package and make-kpkg.
Instead of 'make-kpkg kernel-image', I use 'make-kpkg buildpackage'.
I wind up with redundant -source, -headers, etc. packages, but hey,
disk is cheap. Similarly, 'make-kpkg modules' instead of
modules-image. (And to get this to work, you need to generate a GPG
key, which is probably a good idea anyways, and make sure that you
have the right name and email in /etc/kernel-pkg.conf.)
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Subject: Re: Preferred procedure for getting extra php4
functionality?
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:07:34
+0000
From: Colin Watson
<cjwatson@debian.org>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 11:43:42AM -0500, Lloyd Zusman wrote:
> I noticed that the standard debian php4 package doesn't seem to be built
> with the "--enable-mime-magic" option, and therefore, it doesn't provide
> the capability to use the mime_content_type() function.
>
> What's the preferred debian procedure for getting extra php
> functionality like this?
File a wishlist bug report against php4. See
<http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting>.
Cheers,
--
Colin Watson [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]
Subject: Debian
Date: Thu, 2 Jan
2003 09:11:09 -0800
From: "Larry Stallings"
<twoguns@nethere.com>
To:
<debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Yes, I have a question. Can I
get a CD with the Debian updates on it or do I have to download them from
the Web? I live in a very small town and have a slow modem. I
hope there is some other way of receiving updated info. I just ordered
Debian 3 so it should be a fairly new version, but I understand there are
updates already out there. Thank You;Larry Stallingslarry@cut.net
Subject: Re: cannot open dislpay: debian:0.0
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 12:12:11 -0500
From: David Z Maze <dmaze@debian.org>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
"Kevin" <kevin@robertsesq.com> writes:
> make xconfig
...
> Application initialization failed: couldn't connect to display
> "10.100.4.2:0.0"
...
> Yes I was login directly as root
*Why*? Building a kernel isn't the sort of essential system
administration task that requires root access; you're much less likely
to shoot yourself in the foot if you do it as a normal user. (You
only need to be root to do the final install-the-kernel step; in a
kernel-package world, that's the 'dpkg --install' invocation.)
It sounds like your essential problem is that you're setting $DISPLAY
by hand when you don't need to. If you really are logged in directly,
DISPLAY should come pre-set to :0.0, which is the right setting.
Similarly, if you're logged in remotely, ssh X forwarding should
correctly set DISPLAY for you.
These days, unless you're dealing with remote work on really crufty
machines with recalcitrant administrators who won't install ssh, you
have no reason to ever put anything before the colon in an X display
setting. (Exception: ssh uses localhost:10.0 or so rather than a Unix
socket.) Similarly, you should probably forget the xhost command ever
existed; it's useless on a Debian box with default settings.
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Subject: Re: Debian
Date: Thu, 2 Jan
2003 09:22:04 -0800 (PST)
From: "nate"
<debian-user@aphroland.org>
To:
<debian-user@lists.debian.org>
Larry Stallings said:
> Yes, I have a question. Can I get a CD with the Debian updates on it or
> do I have to download them from the Web? I live in a very small town and
> have a slow modem. I hope there is some other way of receiving updated
> info. I just ordered Debian 3 so it should be a fairly new version, but I
> understand there are updates already out there.
I don't think there are any official cds with security updates on them.
You should be able to get revision updates on CD (r1 is the current
for woody I think).
you could do something like apt-get -s upgrade, to see what packages will
be downloaded and download them manually from security.debian.org on another
machine, and install them manually (dpkg) though.
if the machine is firewalled or protected in some other way you may not
need security updates, and you may only need or want to upgrade to the
minor revisions. This assumes your systems are on a trusted network.
nate
Subject: Re: Nvidia compile error [SOLVED]
Date: 03 Jan 2003 01:40:50 +0900
From:
Elijah <desiderata@softhome.net>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
> I'm glad you got it working!
>
> The above doesn't make sense to me. If you compiled your kernel you have
> your kernel headers. /usr/share/doc/nvidia-kernel-src/README.Debian.gz
> describes this.
>
> If you look at the Nvidia tarball file NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-4191/Makefile it
> uses
>
> KERNDIR=/lib/modules/$(shell uname -r)
>
> ifeq ($(shell if test -d $(KERNDIR)/build; then echo yes; fi),yes)
> KERNINC=$(KERNDIR)/build/include
> else
> KERNINC=/usr/src/linux/include
> endif
>
> And on my machine:
>
> $ ls -l /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
> lrwxr-xr-x 1 root root 29 Aug 7 22:07
> /lib/modules/2.4.18-xfs-laptop/build -> /usr/src/kernel-source-2.4.18
>
> points back to the kernel source directory.
>
> I've never used a kernel-headers package. I assume it creates a similar
> symlink.
>
> --
> Bill Moseley moseley@hank.org
>
As I remember from unpacking the kernel-headers it unloads a directory
kernel-header>include> it seems to only have the 'include' directory
(I'm not sure though). Then I do: (from the nvidia-kernel)
make SYSLINUX=/usr/src/kernel-header/include/
it compiles after that (no need to compile the headers, as I didn't but
still worked).
After all that excitement I think I also remember symlinking the
headers:
ln -s /usr/src/kernel-headers<version> /usr/src/linux
then compile the nvdia-kernel
(I can't remember much of which method I used but I assume both worked
since they seem all the same to me as it points to my kernel-headers)
Subject: ogg123 segmentation fault
Date:
02 Jan 2003 12:40:23 -0500
From: "David H.
Clymer" <david@nittanylink.com>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
for some reason, ogg123 is acting up. when I try to play an .ogg file, i
get the message the following:
<error message>
woody:/home/david/share/audio/speeches# ogg123 rms-mit*.ogg
Device: OSS audio driver output
Author: Aaron Holtzman <aholtzma@ess.engr.uvic.ca>
Comments: Outputs audio to the Open Sound System driver.
Playing: rms-mit2001.ogg
Error: Cannot open device oss.
Segmentation fault
</error message>
this happens no regardless of which account it is run under. mpg321
works just fine.
any ideas?
davidc
Subject: real player plugin only as root
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:50:40 -0500 (EST)
From: John Kerr Anderson <jaanders@tm.net>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Hello,
I recently tried installing Real Player 8 plugin for Netscape 7.0.
NS7.0 recognises the plugin for all users, but when I try to listen to
Netscape radio, only root can hear the sound.
Can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work for other users? Any
advice would be helpful...
Thanks in advance! :-)
John Kerr Anderson
Subject: Re: Debian
Date: Thu, 2 Jan
2003 18:51:38 +0100
From: Frank Gevaerts
<frank@gevaerts.be>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 09:11:09AM -0800, Larry Stallings wrote:
> Yes, I have a question. Can I get a CD with the Debian updates on it or do I have to download them from the Web? I live in a very small town and have a slow modem. I hope there is some other way of receiving updated info. I just ordered Debian 3 so it should be a fairly new version, but I understand there are updates already out there.
There are some updates, but (depending on your installation size), it
should not be more than 20 or 30 MB
Frank
>
> Thank You;
> Larry Stallings
> larry@cut.net
Subject: Re: real player plugin only as root
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:07:15 +0100 (CET)
From: ernst <ernst@bluezone.no>
To: John Kerr Anderson <jaanders@tm.net>
CC: debian-user <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
you scould check the rights
(chmod a+rw /dev/dsp)
# ls -la /dev/dsp
crw-rw-rw- 1 root audio 14, 3 Nov 4 2001 /dev/dsp
#
/ernst
On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, John Kerr Anderson wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I recently tried installing Real Player 8 plugin for Netscape 7.0.
> NS7.0 recognises the plugin for all users, but when I try to listen to
> Netscape radio, only root can hear the sound.
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get the sound to work for other users? Any
> advice would be helpful...
>
> Thanks in advance! :-)
>
> John Kerr Anderson
>
>
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Subject: Re: ogg123 segmentation fault
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:08:46 +0100
From: Stephan Seitz <nur-ab-sal@gmx.de>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Hi!
On Thu, Jan 02, 2003 at 12:40:23PM -0500, David H. Clymer wrote:
> for some reason, ogg123 is acting up. when I try to play an .ogg file, i
> get the message the following:
> Playing: rms-mit2001.ogg
> Error: Cannot open device oss.
Seems the oss device is used by another programm. Maybe esd or artsd?
> this happens no regardless of which account it is run under. mpg321
> works just fine.
And what output device is mpg321 using?
Try ogg123 -d esd or -d arts.
Shade and sweet water!
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Subject: OpenGL
Date: Thu, 02 Jan
2003 06:18:47 -0600
From: Chris Burns
<fooberman@mail.utexas.edu>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Hey everyone,
I'm having trouble getting a simple OpenGL window running here wiht the
GLX lib. it's a tutorial i downloaded from NeHe's website, renders
almost nothing, it's just to illustrate how to use the libraries to get
a rendering window up and running. here's the error i'm getting:
XF86VidModeExtension-Version 2.1
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Only Singlebuffered Visual!
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
glX-Version -1073743316.64971124
Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".
Segmentation fault
I was under the impression that XF86 4.0 and Debian would have all the
standard OpenGL libraries already installed.
how do i get the GLX extension?
Chris~
Subject: Programs Won't Run -- Can't find Library
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:26:55 -0500
From: Hal Vaughan <hal@thresholddigital.com>
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
I used apt-get to install a few games -- most not ably, Enigma, and Mirror
Magic. Whenever I try to run either from the console, I get:
error while loading shared libraries: libvorbisfile.so.0: cannot open shared
ojbect file: No such file or directory
I do have /usr/libs/libvorbisfile.so.3, but not .so.0. I thought apt-get was
supposed to resolve dependency problems like this.
So what do I do to get these programs running? I did apt-cache search
libvorbisfile and the only package listed had libvorbisfile.so.3.
Thanks!
Hal
Subject: Re: I can't install KDE3 on debian sarge
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 09:34:50 -0900
From: Greg Madden <gomadtroll@gci.net>
To: <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
On Thursday 02 January 2003 05:53 am, Richard PAVY wrote:
> I added
> ftp://download.uk.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/3.0.5a/Debian/woody/
>
> In the sources.list file but "apt-get install kde" with root privileges
> (I'm using debian sarge, it shouldn't be any harder than that???)
> Doesn't seen to work. It says :
>
> server:~# apt-get install kde
> Reading Package Lists... Done
> Building Dependency Tree... Done
> Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> or been moved out of Incoming.
>
> Since you only requested a single operation it is extremely likely that
> the package is simply not installable and a bug report against
> that package should be filed.
> The following information may help to resolve the situation:
>
> Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies:
> kde: Depends: kdelibs3 but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: libarts or
> libarts-alsa but it is not going to be installed or
> libarts-bin but it is not installable
> Depends: libkmid or
> libkmid-alsa but it is not going to be installed or
> libkmid-bin but it is not installable
> Depends: kdebase but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3 but it is not installable
> Depends: kdebase-audiolibs but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-audiolibs but it is not installable
> Depends: kdebase-libs but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-libs but it is not installable
> Depends: kdebase-doc but it is not going to be installed or
> kdebase3-doc but it is not installable
> Depends: kab but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: kpm but it is not going to be installed
> Depends: koffice but it is not going to be installed
> E: Sorry, broken packages
> server:~#
>
> but what's more, an "apt-cache showpkg kde" says I'm installing kde
> 2.2.25 or so while I need kde3. Anyone help me ??!!
Alan is rigtht about the task 'kde' Sarge has a task kde based on kde2.2.x so
I would expect kde2.2.x to get installed with that command. Dselect/aptitude
is a preffered way, and be carefull to not select ay kde2.2.x stuff, only the
kde3.0.5a. packages, both sets of packages will be listed.
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Subject: Re: Linux and Intel's Hyperthreading
Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 19:35:41 +0100
From: mess-mate <messmate@tiscali.fr>
To: debian-en <debian-user@lists.debian.org>
On Tue, 31 Dec 2002 20:16:03 -0800 (PST)
"nate" <debian-user@aphroland.org> wrote:
| nick lidakis said:
| > I was looking to replace my 1Ghz P3 and motherboard with a stable, but
| > fast mb/cpu combo that was fully supported by a recent linux kernel. I
| > was looking a an Intel 845PE motherboard with a 3.0Ghz cpu. My question
| > is, how is Hyperthreading supported under linux? Is it a matter of
| > enabling SMP in the kernel? Anyone playing with one of these CPU's?
|
|
| it is supported by default. the system will see double the cpus there
| actually are. the kernel isn't tuned to fully take advantage of the
| hyperthreading yet though. I think newer 2.5.x kernels can do it, perhaps
| theres a patch for 2.4.x.. but last I read the current breed of stable
| kernels are not optimized for it.
|
| If I had a system with hyperthreading I would disable the hyperthreading
| in the bios(one mailing list thread mentioned there is an option to do
| so, at least on some systems). Because the kernel would get confused and
| think there are 4 processors on a 2 processor system it might try to get
| smart by loading stuff up on processor #2, not knowing its the same physical
| processor as #1, before loading stuff on #3. I don't remember any benchmark
| numbers but I seem to recall there being very little if any difference
| in performance on hyperthreaded systems with hyperthreading on vs. off
| on the stock kernels(performance can go way up on the newer 2.5.x which
| are tuned to take advantage of it in some cases).
|
| I've read one post on the redhat list recently, some guy was asking why
| top showed 4 cpus on his dual p4, since it was a dual cpu system, a guy
| responded because it was hyperthreading .......
|
| so it should work, just not very optimal.
|
| nate
|
Well, ASUS suggest to compile with the Hyper-Threading compiler ???
What about this compiler ?
Thanks
mess-mate
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Subject: Re: gqview and pgm
Date:
Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:58:57 +0200
From: Lourens
Steenkamp <palchen@ananzi.co.za>
To:
debian-user@lists.debian.org
Lourens replying to Ron Johnson <ron.l.johnson@cox.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 19:17, Dave W wrote:
> > On Wed, 2003-01-01 at 18:27, Michael Naumann wrote:
> >
> > > Is this reproducable elsewhere or is this something special
> > > to me?
> >
> > Works fine on my box, for what it's worth.
>
> Works for me, too. I'm running
Works for Ron not for me
> gqview 1.0.2 1.0.2-1
> gnome 1.4.2 not installed
> libc6 2.3.1-5 2.2.5-14.3
> libgdk-pixbuf2 0.21.0-1 0.17.0-2
> libglib1.2 1.2.10-6 1.2.10-4
> libgtk1.2 1.2.10-14 1.2.10-11
> libpng2 1.0.12-6 1.0.12-3
> xlibs 4.2.1-3 4.1.0-16
> zlib1g 1.1.4-6 1:1.1.4-1
>
Does not work for me.
I have added my versions to the above, you may be able to figure
something out.
HTH
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