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Re: At peace with Debian (was: This is the last war...)



On Sun, 2002-07-14 at 20:33, Glen Lee Edwards wrote:
> On Saturday 13 July 2002 10:44 pm, you wrote:
> > I know I'll end up in you kill file, but i don't care, I don't even
> > know you.  But what I do know is you are an idiot.  Get off your high
> > horse and see that people have helped you, even when you could have
> > helped yourself. Maybe you just need to grow up a little.  ever
> > noticed how when everyone but you thinks something, they are almost
> > certainly right.  Well, go stick me in your kill file, good luck with
> > linux, because the way you treat people who help you, you won't be
> > gettng much help anyumore.
> 
> Erik,
> 
> When I was in public school I asked my teacher a question.  He answered 
> it, then busted out two of my teeth with his fist.  When I objected, he 
> stated that because the education he was providing me was free to me 
> that he had the right to bust out my teeth.  He then busted out a 
> couple more because I had dared object.

That's a shame. It's very enlightening to know that in respect of recent
events. However, we're not your teacher nor any avatar representing him,
and you are not free to take out your inner anger on us.

> There are a very few people on the Debian list who sincerely try to 
> help.  There are a number on the list who use the opportunity to bully 
> and bludgeon posters.  These people get an adrenaline high on abusing 
> others, and provide nothing constructive in their responses.  "FIX YOUR 
> MAIL" is not a valid response.  My dog is capable of making that 
> statement.

And your dog would be right. Your mail system is broke. Sorry :(

I don't see abuse on this list. I do see people who occasionally demand
stuff, don't get it, get on their soapboxes, and get chewed out for it. 
 
> I spent the last week thinking about it.  I don't want the people I know 
> to know that I use Debian.  I don't want them to try it, join the 
> Debian list, and then be subjected to the abuse that goes with being 
> part of the Debian crowd.  I've never met such an uncivilized and war 
> like group of people - barbarians, many of whom don't have the 
> intelligence to attempt an answer to a question that's been posted, so 
> instead they harshly attack the poster.

Horsefeathers. If you want "Good morning Mr Edwards, how we be of
service today?" I suggest you get your chequebook out and buy a service
contract with a reputable vendor.

Here's the deal. You screwed up. You refused to admit that you'd screwed
up, even though people showed you how you'd screwed up, and how to fix
it. You complained that your broken mail setup broke things, and because
the Apache people don't mind spam on their list, we shouldn't either.

You were told what the problem is and what you had to do to fix it.

I'm frankly astounded by your response. You come to a free project run
by **volunteers**, abuse them, and wonder why the response is less than
the milk of human kindness?

> I can assure you that you and Debian won't be missed.  No professional 
> in his right mind would use Debian on his business computers simply 
> because most  of the responses to his posts have nothing to do with the 
> question, but are nothing more than personal attacks.

This isn't so, it's been shown to be not so, but you persist in your
mischaracterisation of the members of this list and the Debian project
as a whole. Why? 

> What a joke.

The joke is the reputation that you have built for yourself here, in
front of the thousands of subscribers to this list, one of whom might be
your next customer.

Regards,

Peter.
-- 
Peter Whysall
peter.whysall@ntlworld.moc
The TLD in my email address is sdrawkcab.
Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 sid -- kernel 2.4.18

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