debian-user-digest Digest Volume 2002 : Issue 598
Today's Topics:
Gnome session error -- "gnome-smprox [ LUK ShunTim <ShunTim.Luk@polyu.edu. ]
GDM [ New Star Service Company <newstar@g ]
Re: ide-scsi and initrd [ David P James <dpjames@rogers.com> ]
Re: debian crashes server (can't use [ bob parker <bob_parker@dodo.com.au> ]
Re: OT: debian powerpc: 64 bit or 32 [ Rob Weir <rweir@softhome.net> ]
Re: OT: debian powerpc: 64 bit or 32 [ Stephen Gran <steve@lobefin.net> ]
file permissions with devfsd [ "John L. Fjellstad" <john-list@fjel ]
Re: Gnome session error -- "gnome-sm [ Stephen Gran <steve@lobefin.net> ]
Re: GDM [ Matthias Hentges <eebe@gmx.net> ]
Re: Consquences of changing hostname [ Stephen Gran <steve@lobefin.net> ]
Re: ide-scsi and initrd [ Bob Hauck <bobh@haucks.org> ]
Re: Open Source file delivery for ap [ Rob Weir <rweir@softhome.net> ]
Re: ide-scsi and initrd [ Bob Hauck <bobh@haucks.org> ]
Re: Open Source file delivery for ap [ Lukas Ruf <ruf@rawip.org> ]
Re: exim, mutt, fetchmail [ Mark Copper <m.copper@wayne.edu> ]
Re: i always end-up in frame buffer [ Shyamal Prasad <shyamal.prasad@sbcg ]
ms windows [ "O.B.Gilmour" <obgilmour@yahoo.com> ]
Hello,
My gnome-session has been working well but recently after some general upgrade,
I encounter the following error:
"gnome-smproxy: unable to connect to session"
when I tried to start X I'm using startx to do it.
My system is sid with gnome/gnome-2 dist-updated just yesterday.
I had tried deleting my user ~/.gnome tree as suggested by a google search
for "unable to connect to session" but to no avail. However, I cannot find
any discussion of this problem in the debian list archives.
Grateful for any pointer.
Good day,
ST
--
I'm using gdm but gdm only shown gnome,kde and twm on the list
but gdm not shown which I want to use blackbox,windowmaker
or fvwm which also installed. what I will do now ?
I also edit .xsession and also use "update-alternatives"
command but not success.
please help me how can I use blackbox or windowmaker ?
Shyamal Prasad was roused into action on 2002-11-23 00:10 and wrote:
"David" == David P James <David> writes:
David> problems. Despite having "hdb=ide-scsi" in my grub config
David> file ide-cd is still getting loaded first. So I have to
David> manually run 'rmmod ide-scsi' and then 'insmod ide-scsi',
David> which for some reason actually works. Just plain silly.
What kernel are you running? I presume you are not running a IDE boot
device, so perhaps you want to tell ide-cd to ignore hdd instead? Now
I'm curious why my set up works (no SCSI devices, lots of IDE of which
only one requires SCSI emulation).
I'm running kernel 2.4.18-686
hda: IDE HD with Windows98
hdb: IDE CDRW
sda: SCSI HD attached to AHA2940UW card (set as BIOS boot device) with Debian
3.0
I had absolutely no problems getting the device to work; it just won't set
up properly at boot. I don't know if it has anything to do with having two
other SCSI hosts on the system or not...
SCSI0 - AHA2940UW
SCSI1 - ide-scsi
SCSI2 - AHA1502A (for a scanner)
the 2940uw module (which has another name) is loaded first
then ide-cd module is apparently loaded
then ide-scsi
and finally aha152x is loaded
So the problem seems to be ide-cd independent of the other SCSI hosts.
Here's my /etc/modutils/ide-scsi (practically identical to Bob Hauck's):
options ide-cd ignore=hdb
alias scd0 sr_mod
alias scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd
The thing I don't understand is the ordering in the last line, yet every
example I've ever seen online is like this. I'm tempted to flip it one day
just to see what happens.
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002 08:51, Benedict Verheyen wrote:
most likely there is a hardware problem. Linux doesn't just shutdown
without a reason :)
Yep, my "workmachine" has 2 debian's and a win os running and i never
had problems with my debian systems before.
win98 is a piece of shit OS, and doesn't stress the hardware nearly
as much as a linux installation does(or perhaps even a NT4 install or
win2000)
If you have flaky memory above 64meg Wonders98 won't be crashed
immediately by it because that piece of shitware doesn't use anything
above 64meg. It stuffs all of the excess memory needs into the swap file
including memory cached disk pages.
That's why you can crash that piece of shit every two hours if you are
doing anything heavy like C++ compiles.
I would be running memtest86 before I abandoned Debian.
The only good thing about W98 was that it persuaded me to give Ms the
arse in favour of Linux.
HTH
Bob
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 01:45:53AM -0800, Karsten M. Self wrote:
I've looked for the answer to this question in several places, no clear
statement I can find.
Is the Debian powerpc port 32 or 64 bit? Does this pertain to the
kernel and all apps or just the kernel? And is this equivalent to,
No specific info, but I know G3s are 32-bit, and debian-ppc runs on
that, so presumably the whole ppc archive is 32-bit. No doubt the folks
on debian-ppc@l.d.o would be able to tell you for sure.
-rob
This one time, at band camp, Karsten M. Self said:
I've looked for the answer to this question in several places, no
clear statement I can find.
Is the Debian powerpc port 32 or 64 bit? Does this pertain to the
kernel and all apps or just the kernel? And is this equivalent to,
e.g.: SuSE's zSeries/powerpc ports (which _are_ 64 bit AFAIK).
If there's a document explaining this in detail, I'd appreciate a
reference.
Thanks.
Peace.
I looked around on the ports page, but didn't see anything specific. I
would assume the kernel is the same as on any linux distro. I
downloaded a deb, and extracted it, and ran file on it to check. Here's
the output:
steve:~$ file temp/usr/bin/kcdlabel
temp/usr/bin/kcdlabel: ELF 32-bit MSB executable, PowerPC or cisco 4500,
version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, dynamically linked (uses shared
libs), stripped
FWIW,
I'm running Debian 3.0 with custom Linux 2.4.19 kernel.
I added this to /etc/devf/perms file:
REGISTER ^scsi/host0/bus0/target6/lun0/generic$ PERMISSIONS root.cdrom
0660
Still, whenever I reboot the system, the generic device gets reset
to the default permission (root.root 0600), and I have to manually
make the changeover . How do I make the change
permanent?
Note, the following has been uncommented in /etc/devfs/compat_symlinks:
REGISTER ^vc/.* MKOLDCOMPAT
UNREGISTER ^vc/.* RMOLDCOMPAT
REGISTER ^pty/.* MKOLDCOMPAT
UNREGISTER ^pty/.* RMOLDCOMPAT
REGISTER ^misc MKOLDCOMPAT
UNREGISTER ^misc RMOLDCOMPAT
Everything else is default.
Thanks
This one time, at band camp, LUK ShunTim said:
Hello,
My gnome-session has been working well but recently after some general
upgrade, I encounter the following error:
"gnome-smproxy: unable to connect to session"
when I tried to start X I'm using startx to do it.
My system is sid with gnome/gnome-2 dist-updated just yesterday. I
had tried deleting my user ~/.gnome tree as suggested by a google
search for "unable to connect to session" but to no avail. However, I
cannot find any discussion of this problem in the debian list
archives. Grateful for any pointer.
Good day,
ST --
There is a long discussion about this on the -gtk-gnome list - the short
answer is you'll need to revert the bonobo-activation and libbonobo*
version down to 1.0.3 - check the list archives for where you can
download older debs.
HTH,
Am Sam, 2002-11-23 um 15.50 schrieb New Star Service Company:
I'm using gdm but gdm only shown gnome,kde and twm on the list
but gdm not shown which I want to use blackbox,windowmaker
or fvwm which also installed. what I will do now ?
I also edit .xsession and also use "update-alternatives"
command but not success.
please help me how can I use blackbox or windowmaker ?
For WindowMaker use these commands and restart gdm:
$ echo -e "#!/bin/bash\n/usr/bin/wmaker" > /etc/gdm/Sessions/WindowMaker
$ chmod 755 /etc/gdm/Sessions/WindowMaker
I don't know what the executable file for Blackbox is so you'll have to
figure it out yourself.
Looks like a bug to me that WindowMaker and Blackbox are not integrated
into GDM.
This one time, at band camp, Robert Ian Smit said:
I am used to leaving "Enter domainname" blank when I install Debian.
So all my systems are called something like box1 or box2.
I want to add to this name so it becomes box1.foo.domain.
I have searched through /etc and i have found a couple of files that
reflect the hostname of the machine.
Can I update these files to the new name? I am most worried about the
exim and ssh(d) configuration? Exim for obvious reasons, and ssh for
fear of being locked out of remote systems (I use key pair
authentication and don't want to get on a bus to reset public keys.)
If I had entered a domain-name at setup time, would foo.domain just
be appended to the entry in /etc/hosts or would other configuration
have taken place? I compare to an OpenBSD box that is already setup
correctley wrt name+domain. That system uses an entry in /etc/hosts
and has the file /etc/myname. (It's apples and oranges, I know)
I want to be able to use short names as well. Is it possible to do
this with entries in /etc/hosts like:
192.168.1.4 box1.foo.domain box1
If so, would all regular network applications parse the entire entry
to find both names? (expressed from users point of view)
I could give it a shot, but I'd rather await tips and mentions from
this list.
Bob
I just went through this, and you have it right. Put entries in that
format in /etc/hosts, and /etc/hostname will just have the short name
(box1, box2, etc)
Entering the hostname at install time just puts the name in
/etc/hostname, ao AFAIK, you still have to append the domain in
/etc/hosts.
HTH,
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, David P James wrote:
Bob Hauck was roused into action on 2002-11-22 08:01 and wrote:
When I upgraded, that stopped working because the ide-cd driver is now a
module. So I added an /etc/modultils entry "cdrw" per the CD-Writing
HOWTO:
options ide-cd ignore="hdb hdc"
alias scd1 sr_mod
pre-install sg modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install sr_mod modprobe ide-scsi
pre-install ide-scsi modprobe ide-cd
That "works" in that all the right modules get loaded, but I still can't
use the cd burner.
I've got practically the same setup and configuration (including a SCSI
HD and card) and the same problems.
Ok, I think I've got a handle on this. First, with the 2.4.18-686-smp
kernel the "append=hdb=ide-scsi" thing doesn't work. The reason being
that ide-cd is a module rather than being built into the kernel as it was
with 2.2 kernels and the bf2.4 kernel that's installed by default.
Next, the reason I was getting a spew of error messages with the above
modutils options was that ide-cd does not like it if you tell it to ignore
all of the ide devices in the system. If I gave it only one device to
ignore the error messages went away.
I think the reason why ide-cd was getting loaded at all was because I was
calling hdparm to enable DMA (which my previous 2.2 kernel did not turn on
by default) and make sure the cd-rom devices were in the best mode.
So what I did was this:
1. Built a new initrd.img with just the drivers I need to boot. I put
this list in /etc/mkinitrd/modules:
ext3
aic7xxx
Then I ran:
"mkintrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.4.18-686-smp /lib/modules/2.4.18"
to build a new initial ramdisk image, followed by "lilo" to make sure lilo
knew where it was. This seems to have returned everything to the initial
working state I had after first upgrading to 2.4.18-686-smp.
2. In /etc/modultils/cdrw:
alias ide-cd off
I have no ide devices except for my cd-rom and cd-rw and I want both of
them to be treated as scsi so they will show up in kreatecd. Thus I don't
need ide-cd. If you have some ide devices that you want to be treated as
ide, then I think you'll need to put "options ide-cd ignore=hdb" instead
as suggested in the CD-Writing-HOWTO. Then run update-modules.
3. Added these modules to /etc/modules:
ide-probe-mod
ide-scsi
The ide-probe-mod causes the two ide devices to exist as /dev/hdb and
/dev/hdc so that hdparm will work, but it doesn't load any cd-rom support.
Now everything works fine. The "sg" and "sr_mod" modules seem to get
loaded automagically when I try to write to a cd. The rest of my settings
in /etc/modutils are basically stock, except for one to load NVdriver for
my NVidia card.
On Sat, Nov 23, 2002 at 03:19:35PM +0100, Robert Ian Smit wrote:
* Lukas Ruf <ruf@rawip.org> [23-11-2002 15:04]:
my boss agreed to distribute some code and information I have written
under the terms of the GNU GPL v2 and the respective documentation
license. However, he requested me to install a system which allows me
to keep track on who is requesting the data.
Can't help with a technical solution. I haven't studied GPL law, but
I do have a feeling you can't do this. Besides everyone would be
free to distribute the goods themselves, so it's impractical to say
the least.
It sounds like this is in line with the letter, if not the spirit of the
GPL. As long as you're willig to give the source to anyone who you give
the binary to, under the terms of the GPL, then you'll be fine.
IANAL, IANAA, I do not have enough money to be worth suing, etc...
-rob
On 22 Nov 2002, Shyamal Prasad wrote:
"David" == David P James <David> writes:
David> problems. Despite having "hdb=ide-scsi" in my grub config
David> file ide-cd is still getting loaded first. So I have to
David> manually run 'rmmod ide-scsi' and then 'insmod ide-scsi',
David> which for some reason actually works. Just plain silly.
What kernel are you running? I presume you are not running a IDE boot
device, so perhaps you want to tell ide-cd to ignore hdd instead?
I'm running 2.4.18-686-smp from woody. My boot device is /dev/sda1, the
two cd-rom devices are /dev/hdb and /dev/hdc. I don't remember why one is
master and one slave, but it doesn't matter as there are no other ide
devices.
I'm curious why my set up works (no SCSI devices, lots of IDE of which
only one requires SCSI emulation).
I have almost the dual of that. I have several SCSI devices and only two
IDE devices of which both require ide-scsi. I've got it working now, see
my other post today.
* Rob Weir <rweir@softhome.net> [2002-11-23 16:25]:
It sounds like this is in line with the letter, if not the spirit of the
GPL. As long as you're willig to give the source to anyone who you give
the binary to, under the terms of the GPL, then you'll be fine.
The full bunch of source will come with it. Of every source file, the
header mentions GPL....
IANAL, IANAA, I do not have enough money to be worth suing, etc...
????? ????? -- what do they mean in full words?
Do you have any idea where to get such a delivery-system?
wbr,
Lukas
On Fri, 22 Nov 2002, Stephen Gran wrote:
This one time, at band camp, Mark Copper said:
I'm want to set up e-mail on my Debian box and am having trouble with
basics.
When I start mutt, I get an error message:
/var/mail/<myusername>: no such file or directory
And indeed there is not. Should there be? Is this an exim or mutt or
simply a permissions thing?
Send yourself a test message:
mail -s "making a mailbox" <myusername>@localhost < any_text_file
That will create the mailbox, unless you have any filtering going on, or
use ~/Maildir or something.
If you use Maildir, or filtering, tell mutt where the mailspool is in
.muttrc
HTH,
Yes, it does. Thank you and thank you for your patience with such a silly
question.
Mark
"Derek" == Derek Gladding <derek_gladding@altavista.net> writes:
Derek> On Saturday 23 November 2002 05:29 am, Derek Gladding
Derek> wrote: [snip]
>> Hi Sandip
>>
>> IIRC, the "vga=" parameter only affects the settings for VGA
>> text mode. As you're using a framebuffer this parameter will be
>> ignored.
>>
>> The control parameter for the framebuffer is given as
>> "video=<foo>". I *think* that you can turn off the framebuffer
>> with "video=none" or "video=vga" - I can't remember exactly
>> which.
>>
>> HTH
>>
>> - Derek
Derek> Just to clarify, the "video=" option goes in the "append"
Derek> section of lilo.conf, not the main body of the file.
Correct. And the parameter is "video=vga16:off"
/Shyamal
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