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RE: Linux: a gentle, growing approach



Ben and Colin said....
 
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:33:19PM +1000, David Pastern wrote:
> Ben said:
> 
> excellent advice. in fact, i found myself in an involuntary chuckle before
i
> got to the end of it. it's great to read that someone whose cunning
(welches
> wissen (?)) i respect has the same opinion of dselect and tasksel. maybe
the
> banishing of those two crapapples would help demystify debian for many
more 
> tentative users.
> 
> ben
> 
> I'll put my 2 bobs worth in here:
> 
> I disagree to some extent with your comments Ben.  Both tasksel and
debconf
> are tools.  Nothing more and nothing less.  What you are saying is you
don't
> like tools, and would rather do things the hard way (I agree generally
> better, you learn more and more reliable than an auto tool - I admit
that).

Actually, I don't think that's what Ben is saying. If my telepathy's
working properly this morning, he's saying he wants better and more
co-operative tools. aptitude is the usual candidate here, since it's
shaping up to be able to replace both dselect and tasksel.

-- 
Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]

yes you're most probably right Colin.  I didn't mean it as a slight on Ben.
More of a rant on tools ;-) hehehe.  I did say better tools would be much
appreciated.  hehehe, we all want them, but someone has to develop them.  If
i knew more about linux i'd help re-write all the man pages to help newbies
better understand them.  If I knew how to program (maybe in a few
years...*fingers crossed*) i'd be trying to help out with kernel hacking or
general applications/bug fixes.  Give back to the open source community.  We
have a awesome chance here to combine our intelligence and thinking might
and make a system that is to the betterment of all.  That's why I cheer when
governments get rid of microsoft or other proprietary systems and decide on
open source.  It's a good move.  Linux is not for everyday people yet.  It
still has a long way to go, but geesus it's come a long way.  One day I
might help make better tools :)

Dave



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