RE: Linux: a gentle, growing approach
Ben and Colin said....
On Mon, Oct 14, 2002 at 05:33:19PM +1000, David Pastern wrote:
> Ben said:
>
> excellent advice. in fact, i found myself in an involuntary chuckle before
i
> got to the end of it. it's great to read that someone whose cunning
(welches
> wissen (?)) i respect has the same opinion of dselect and tasksel. maybe
the
> banishing of those two crapapples would help demystify debian for many
more
> tentative users.
>
> ben
>
> I'll put my 2 bobs worth in here:
>
> I disagree to some extent with your comments Ben. Both tasksel and
debconf
> are tools. Nothing more and nothing less. What you are saying is you
don't
> like tools, and would rather do things the hard way (I agree generally
> better, you learn more and more reliable than an auto tool - I admit
that).
Actually, I don't think that's what Ben is saying. If my telepathy's
working properly this morning, he's saying he wants better and more
co-operative tools. aptitude is the usual candidate here, since it's
shaping up to be able to replace both dselect and tasksel.
--
Colin Watson [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]
yes you're most probably right Colin. I didn't mean it as a slight on Ben.
More of a rant on tools ;-) hehehe. I did say better tools would be much
appreciated. hehehe, we all want them, but someone has to develop them. If
i knew more about linux i'd help re-write all the man pages to help newbies
better understand them. If I knew how to program (maybe in a few
years...*fingers crossed*) i'd be trying to help out with kernel hacking or
general applications/bug fixes. Give back to the open source community. We
have a awesome chance here to combine our intelligence and thinking might
and make a system that is to the betterment of all. That's why I cheer when
governments get rid of microsoft or other proprietary systems and decide on
open source. It's a good move. Linux is not for everyday people yet. It
still has a long way to go, but geesus it's come a long way. One day I
might help make better tools :)
Dave
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