Mario Vukelic writes: > I was under the impression that this is what "dialout" is for. The 'dip' group is for users who need to start a ppp connection. Certain pppd-related files are in 'dip'. 'dialout' is for users who need to open serial ports. The serial ports are in this group. It is not necessary to be in 'dialout' to start a ppp connection. -- John Hasler john@dhh.gt.org (John Hasler) Dancing Horse Hill Elmwood, WI