Bruce> Milkien is the convicted junk-bond king - made a billion while Bruce> bankrupting little people's pension funds with bonds that had Bruce> their price inflated through fraud. Isn't he partners with Larry Ellison in something, these days? I think I remember reading about it. -- Ian Zimmerman, Oakland, California, U.S.A. GPG: 433BA087 9C0F 194F 203A 63F7 B1B8 6E5A 8CA3 27DB 433B A087 EngSoc adopts market economy: cheap is wasteful, efficient is expensive.