Re: Searching for Paul Johnson
On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 04:09:29 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote:
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>On Tue, Jul 30, 2002 at 11:08:44PM -0500, Gary Turner wrote:
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>> In any
>> case, I will still argue that the proper path is to route suspect email
>> to an inspection area rather than an arbitrary bounce.
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>Like a growing number of admins, I'm sick of playing nice guy with
>ISPs who harbor spammers. You spam, everyone you serve suffers.
>Email me with postmaster@ursine and I'll tell you who you really
>should be contacting about this issue, postmaster@yourisp. I have
>*zero* tollerance for net-abuse and nearly as little tollerance for
>those who do tollerate it.
Zero tolerance? How do my Debian-user posts (or Colin's, for that
matter), coming from a pariah isp, reach your monitor. Do you make
exceptions? What do you want me to do if postmaster@myisp doesn't
prioritize the same as you or I might? Am I to dump my only reasonable
dsl provider? There are a lot of annoying things in the world. I am
not going to amputate my hand because of a paper cut. I will put an
antiseptic on it and protect it with a Band-Aid. Just as I have and
will continue to write postmaster. However, some things you can't
totally rectify, as much as you would like to.
Auto-bounce is a lazy, impolite extreme that is totally ineffective as a
means of cleansing the world of spam.
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>> plan. Auto dumping mail.com and rediffmail.com, as high a spam rate as
>> they have, is not a good bet-- since every once in a while there is a
>> legitimate message. It's a pretty simple matter to scan the
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>Sorry, but anything below 100% legitimate from a direct source is too
>low to qualify. If it's legitimate, they'll bitch at thier ISP to
>rectify the situation and notify the RBL of the correction, if not,
>they start losing customers as more of the net tunes them out.
Wrong. That is sophomoric idealism without basis in experimental fact.
The only real effect is to piss off the people whose mail you bounced.
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gt kk5st@swbell.net
Faced with the choice between changing one's mind and proving
there is no need to do so, almost everyone gets busy on the proof.
-- John Kenneth Galbraith, economist
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